Voltage Controlled Voltage Source Circuit

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Nick Long

Joined May 12, 2020
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Hello, my friends,

Recently, I want to design a low-power voltage-controlled voltage source circuit. I googled a circuit (figure below) to realize this, however, I do not understand the functions of C1 and Q1 clearly. Why do not let node 1 as the output node? The circuit is from this website: Voltage Controlled Voltage Source - Daycounter
I attach the LTSpice simulation file for your help. Thanks a lot!
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andrewmm

Joined Feb 25, 2011
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not home work help I hope...

Why do you think this will be a voltage controlled source ?

You say you have LTsiced it , whats the results you show ?

What happens to U1 pin 1, as VC is varied ?

Aim of C1, is to smoooooooth out/ filter the noise on the PSU at the input pin 2 of U1 .
 

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Nick Long

Joined May 12, 2020
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not home work help I hope...

Why do you think this will be a voltage controlled source ?

You say you have LTsiced it , whats the results you show ?

What happens to U1 pin 1, as VC is varied ?

Aim of C1, is to smoooooooth out/ filter the noise on the PSU at the input pin 2 of U1 .
The website I searched names this circuit the voltage-controlled voltage source.
"This circuit allows a smaller control voltage to linearly control a larger output voltage Vo. The Resistors R2 and R3 scale the feedback to an appropriate range for the op-amp. R3/(R2+R3)= VCmax/Vo"

The voltage at node 1 equals the sum of Vo and Vgs of Q1. I think Q1 is redundant.
 

Tonyr1084

Joined Sep 24, 2015
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Are you sure this is a viable circuit? I'm seeing what appears to be a voltage follower. But there is no feedback. How does U1 know what its output is? We don't even know what U1 is, other than it appears to be an op-amp. Then I see Q1, which is an N-type MOSFET. It shouldn't be before the load. It won't work in that configuration.

Admittedly - I know I don't know everything. I may be wrong; but I don't think this circuit will work.
 

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Nick Long

Joined May 12, 2020
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The idea of Q1 is to handle higher currents. Your op-amp may handle 30mA of current. If you want a heavy load, say 5 amps then Q1 has to be rated to handle that current. But it's still configured wrong.
Thanks for your reply. Yes I think you are right. It's just the voltage follower. But this configuration can work in my LTSpice. This circuit is from this site: Voltage Controlled Voltage Source - Daycounter .
 

Papabravo

Joined Feb 24, 2006
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Operational amplifiers have limited current output. They have enough to drive the gate of a MOSFET, but not enough to be a voltage source. You have drawn this circuit without showing the feedback connection explicitly. I almost missed this detail. the circuit does seem to work as intended. I think the low Vgs on the gate is limiting the ability to go to higher voltages. If that is what you intended, then great.

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Nick Long

Joined May 12, 2020
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Operational amplifiers have limited current output. They have enough to drive the gate of a MOSFET, but not enough to be a voltage source. You have drawn this circuit without showing the feedback connection explicitly. I almost missed this detail. the circuit does work as intended.
Sorry for that. Now I have understood this circuit. It is just a voltage follower with the ability to output a larger current. Thanks for your help.
 

crutschow

Joined Mar 14, 2008
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C1 is not doing what you might think.
It rolls off the high frequency feedback, thus increasing the high frequency gain and noise to the open-loop value, which is not likely what you want.
If you put C1 across R1 than it will roll-off the high frequency gain by 6dB (to a gain of 1).
 

andrewmm

Joined Feb 25, 2011
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C1 is not doing what you might think.
It rolls off the high frequency feedback, thus increasing the high frequency gain and noise to the open-loop value, which is not likely what you want.
If you put C1 across R1 than it will roll-off the high frequency gain by 6dB (to a gain of 1).
Apologies,
I missed the Vo feedback to the voltage divider...
Thought it was a voltage comparator...
 

LowQCab

Joined Nov 6, 2012
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What is "Low-Power" ???
What is the Voltage range this Circuit needs to work in ?
How much Current will the Voltage-Source have to supply ?
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