Use a analog timer to control my hot water cylinder

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samshiu

Joined Jan 21, 2020
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Hi all,

I am a newbie here. Currently, I am thinking of using my analog timer to connect to an old mobile phone transformer (output 12v 1000ma) and then a relay (30A 12v) used for auto horn for switching my hot water cylinder. Is it feasible? Is it necessary any resistors, capacitors or diode required for the relay input end?

Thank you very much for your advice!
 

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Rich2

Joined Mar 3, 2014
254
I bought a couple of those analogue timers a few years ago. They didn't last long. The digital ones are much better quality in my opinion. Also look at din rail mounted version, then you can fit it in a control box with a contactor (much better than a relay for high amperage mains switching)
 

dendad

Joined Feb 20, 2016
4,637
The ice maker in our fridge stopped working. The reset button did not fix it, even though Google said it would. Then I noticed if I cycled the power, the ice maker started to work again. So, the fix was to run the fridge via one of those analog timers. At 3AM, the fridge powers off for 1/2 hour. That has run quite well now for a couple of years.
If the ratings of the timer are ok, it should switch your heater directly.
 

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samshiu

Joined Jan 21, 2020
5
The ice maker in our fridge stopped working. The reset button did not fix it, even though Google said it would. Then I noticed if I cycled the power, the ice maker started to work again. So, the fix was to run the fridge via one of those analog timers. At 3AM, the fridge powers off for 1/2 hour. That has run quite well now for a couple of years.
If the ratings of the timer are ok, it should switch your heater directly.
Too bad that my timer rating only 10A while the heater required 30A and therefore I start to think about using the timer to control a relay for switching.
 

dendad

Joined Feb 20, 2016
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Too bad that my timer rating only 10A while the heater required 30A and therefore I start to think about using the timer to control a relay for switching.
In that case, a relay or contactor is the way to go. But I think the relay you have shown may not be a mains rated one.
 

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samshiu

Joined Jan 21, 2020
5
If the relay is rated for the heater voltage (AC?) and current.
No.
See if the following Relay spec fits (my heat water cylinder required 30A, 220v AC)

Heavy Duty Chassis Mount Relays - 30A

Relay

Contact format SPST
DC Contact Voltage 12V
DC Switching Current (Opening) 30A
AC Contact Voltage 250V
Coil Resistance 120Ω
Power Source Details

DC Current Draw 30A
DC Voltage 12V
AC Voltage 250V
 

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samshiu

Joined Jan 21, 2020
5
In that case, a relay or contactor is the way to go. But I think the relay you have shown may not be a mains rated one.
yes, therefore I found another relay instead. is it look goods for my application?

Heavy Duty Chassis Mount Relays - 30A Cat. No: SY4040

Relay

Contact formatSPST
DC Contact Voltage12V
DC Switching Current (Opening)30A
AC Contact Voltage250V
Coil Resistance120Ω
Power Source Details

DC Current Draw30A
DC Voltage12V
AC Voltage250V
 

dendad

Joined Feb 20, 2016
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As the load is 30Amps, I would look for a relay rated at 50 Amps. It is best to have some margin. And the wiring will need to be quite heavy. Go for screw terminals too, not lugs.
 

Rich2

Joined Mar 3, 2014
254
That is an automotive relay that plugs into a cars fusebox. I doubt if it will switch nearly 7kw without melting. Use a big contactor and parallel up the 3 contacts.
 
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