By " traditional parametric engines", I mean the ones used by Digikey, Mouser, alltransistors.com, or even the NTE Source Research site (SRI).
AI can be ChatGPT or the simple Google Gemini AI results that are generated in a trad. Google search. I don't subscribe or pay for any AI service so I am limited free, basic AI services. If the subscription services are more accurate, let us know!
Anyway, I work on vintage audio gear, and many devices like transistors are no longer manufactured (or reliable, cost-effective new-old stock sources are rare). Even sub-sub-substitutes are now "Obsolete" at DK/Mouser! So one must come close somehow with what is still available.
In another Reddit thread, I noted some issues with a 1980 Hitachi HA4700 amp that has some damage to the pwr amp board components.
https://www.reddit.com/r/audiorepair/comments/1ursnq7
I am having a tough time with biasing and thermal runaway in the channel in which I had to replace damaged transistors with substitutes. I do have transistor testing meters that provide some useful info.
I thought part of the issue with biasing is the use of NTE parts. On forums like AudioKarma, NTE has subpar reputation.
For example, in looking for replacement 2SB648, I first used NTE SRI, and that spits back NTE2520. (I sometimes use NTE parts simply because a local store still has new-old stock NTE parts in stock). So I soldered in two new NTE2520 for the two blown 2SB648s. While this is progress, I still have biasing and thermal runaway issues.
In ChatGPT, I entered "2SB648, best substitute transistor". And it spat back "2SA1220A" (choice no. 3) as the best still-available alternative. I do have new NEC 2SA1220A's in my parts bin so I swapped out NTE2520s for the 2SA1220A. Still had the same thermal/biasing issue, but in addition, one of the resistors began to smoke and another T0-126 began to get very hot (thermal camera help). I had the unit on a varaic so not much damage. But the AI-suggested 2SA1220A don't seem up to the task.
What's odd is ChatGPT does not suggest the NTE2520 as an alternative even though it suggests other obsolete/discontinued devices.
So out of curiosity, I entered into ChatGPT "NTE2520 vs 2SB648". And it spat back:
"The NTE2520 is not equivalent to the 2SB648, but it is one of the better replacement options if an original 2SB648 isn't available."
I looked at the original (blown) 2SB648 device, the NTE2520 and the NEC 2SA1220A. The 2SA1220A physically looks a little less "beefy" than than the orig. Hitachi 2SB648 or NTE2520. More importantly, the hFE parameter between the NTE2520 NEC 2SA1220A are quite different. See photos.
I have not re-installed the NTE2520's back in to confirm that the 2SA1220A's are, indeed, the cause of new problems. (May follow up if I do that experiment).
Back to trad. parametric search for substitutions ... not sure it is any better/worse than AI.
Trad. parametric search engines (alltransistor, SRI for NTE, or DK/Mouser ) do bias towards (rank better) non-obsolete parts. And AI, depending on how you word the query, will rank with obsolete parts in context (inclusive).







AI can be ChatGPT or the simple Google Gemini AI results that are generated in a trad. Google search. I don't subscribe or pay for any AI service so I am limited free, basic AI services. If the subscription services are more accurate, let us know!
Anyway, I work on vintage audio gear, and many devices like transistors are no longer manufactured (or reliable, cost-effective new-old stock sources are rare). Even sub-sub-substitutes are now "Obsolete" at DK/Mouser! So one must come close somehow with what is still available.
In another Reddit thread, I noted some issues with a 1980 Hitachi HA4700 amp that has some damage to the pwr amp board components.
https://www.reddit.com/r/audiorepair/comments/1ursnq7
I am having a tough time with biasing and thermal runaway in the channel in which I had to replace damaged transistors with substitutes. I do have transistor testing meters that provide some useful info.
I thought part of the issue with biasing is the use of NTE parts. On forums like AudioKarma, NTE has subpar reputation.
For example, in looking for replacement 2SB648, I first used NTE SRI, and that spits back NTE2520. (I sometimes use NTE parts simply because a local store still has new-old stock NTE parts in stock). So I soldered in two new NTE2520 for the two blown 2SB648s. While this is progress, I still have biasing and thermal runaway issues.
In ChatGPT, I entered "2SB648, best substitute transistor". And it spat back "2SA1220A" (choice no. 3) as the best still-available alternative. I do have new NEC 2SA1220A's in my parts bin so I swapped out NTE2520s for the 2SA1220A. Still had the same thermal/biasing issue, but in addition, one of the resistors began to smoke and another T0-126 began to get very hot (thermal camera help). I had the unit on a varaic so not much damage. But the AI-suggested 2SA1220A don't seem up to the task.
What's odd is ChatGPT does not suggest the NTE2520 as an alternative even though it suggests other obsolete/discontinued devices.
So out of curiosity, I entered into ChatGPT "NTE2520 vs 2SB648". And it spat back:
"The NTE2520 is not equivalent to the 2SB648, but it is one of the better replacement options if an original 2SB648 isn't available."
I looked at the original (blown) 2SB648 device, the NTE2520 and the NEC 2SA1220A. The 2SA1220A physically looks a little less "beefy" than than the orig. Hitachi 2SB648 or NTE2520. More importantly, the hFE parameter between the NTE2520 NEC 2SA1220A are quite different. See photos.
I have not re-installed the NTE2520's back in to confirm that the 2SA1220A's are, indeed, the cause of new problems. (May follow up if I do that experiment).
Back to trad. parametric search for substitutions ... not sure it is any better/worse than AI.
Trad. parametric search engines (alltransistor, SRI for NTE, or DK/Mouser ) do bias towards (rank better) non-obsolete parts. And AI, depending on how you word the query, will rank with obsolete parts in context (inclusive).






