transformer test

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ADBLED

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we have a transformer which is CHIPSEN P/N: MTPQ2620-152-16601 NAME MODEL: TRANSFORMER CHIPSEN MODEL No.: PQ2620 1.5mH. i want to test the transformer as input voltage is 220/ 240V and frequency is 50/60Hz but the transformer frequency is 60k HZ so suggest me how i can test the transformer and suggest device apart from VFD, and function generator. as we using ac servo motor and its drive so suggest according to it
 

schmitt trigger

Joined Jul 12, 2010
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Transformers, to avoid saturation, work on the principle of constant volt time. In plain English, if you reduce the operating frequency, you must reduce the applied voltage the same amount.
Thus, your 60kHz transformer operating at 60 Hz would require a primary voltage of only 1/1000 its rated voltage, 0.24 volt.

Thus no, you cannot test a high frequency transformer at powerline frequency. Absolutely not.
 

Pyrex

Joined Feb 16, 2022
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Take the electronic transformer for halogen lamps. It produces 12VAC / 30 kHz. It's not a a best generator to test the HF transformer as it's output pulses at 100Hz (or 120Hz ). If you add an electrolytic capacitor of about 100 -200 uFx400V to the output of the rectifier bridge , the transformer will produce more or less uniform voltage
 

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ADBLED

Joined Dec 24, 2024
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Transformers, to avoid saturation, work on the principle of constant volt time. In plain English, if you reduce the operating frequency, you must reduce the applied voltage the same amount.
Thus, your 60kHz transformer operating at 60 Hz would require a primary voltage of only 1/1000 its rated voltage, 0.24 volt.

Thus no, you cannot test a high frequency transformer at powerline frequency. Absolutely not.
then how i can test it .can you suggest me some ways
 

Ian0

Joined Aug 7, 2020
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Why do you need to test it?
If it doesn't look damaged or burned out, it will most likely work as designed.
If you want to repurpose it, then you will mainly need to know its primary and secondary inductances, especially if it is a flyback converter, and you can just measure those with an inductance meter.
If you want to reuse it in a push-pull converter then simply avoiding saturation is not going to tell you how to drive it, as most push-pull and half-bridge designs run a 20-30% of saturation, or lower. But if it is labelled "60kHz", then that's the frequency to run it at.
 

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ADBLED

Joined Dec 24, 2024
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Why do you need to test it?
If it doesn't look damaged or burned out, it will most likely work as designed.
If you want to repurpose it, then you will mainly need to know its primary and secondary inductances, especially if it is a flyback converter, and you can just measure those with an inductance meter.
If you want to reuse it in a push-pull converter then simply avoiding saturation is not going to tell you how to drive it, as most push-pull and half-bridge designs run a 20-30% of saturation, or lower. But if it is labelled "60kHz", then that's the frequency to run it at.
okay. and its not damaged or burned
 

MisterBill2

Joined Jan 23, 2018
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Why do you need to test it?
If it doesn't look damaged or burned out, it will most likely work as designed.
If you want to repurpose it, then you will mainly need to know its primary and secondary inductances, especially if it is a flyback converter, and you can just measure those with an inductance meter.
If you want to reuse it in a push-pull converter then simply avoiding saturation is not going to tell you how to drive it, as most push-pull and half-bridge designs run a 20-30% of saturation, or lower. But if it is labelled "60kHz", then that's the frequency to run it at.
The simple test for a high frequency transformer that does not look or smell burned is a resistance check between the different windings. AND, if you need to verify the turns ratio, use an audio oscillator set for a high frequency and feed that signal to a higher resistance winding. The voltage ratio between the different windings will be close to the turns ratio.
 

MisterBill2

Joined Jan 23, 2018
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BUT if the specification is for operation at 60 Kilohertz, " . i want to test the transformer as input voltage is 220/ 240V and frequency is 50/60Hz " My question is what sort of transformer do you need, for what voltage and frequency? Or are you wanting to test a transformer that was purchased but you need to verify the specifications and quality??
There is a lot of information missing in your request for advice.
 
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