Trailer bonded ground

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123Ken123

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Hello, Seems like there is not an Electrical bonding connection in the linked connector. I believe the connector does not provide this connection and I cannot bond my metal box trailer to it. If true would the connector manufacturer be in violation of the NEC?
https://www.amazon.com/NOCO-GCP1-16...ocphy=9025378&hvtargid=pla-437104426497&psc=1
More on the extension cord lie. Because the NEC states a metal enclosure needs a bonded ground for 120 VAC the so called extension cord is also for a metal enclosure and a metal plate is a partial enclosure, this makes my application fully addressed by the NEC as needing a bonded ground on the so-called extension cord as it enters a metal enclosure or metal plate.
 

MrSalts

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More on the extension cord lie. Because the NEC states a metal enclosure needs a bonded ground for 120 VAC the so called extension cord is also for a metal enclosure and a metal plate is a partial enclosure, this makes my application fully addressed by the NEC as needing a bonded ground on the so-called extension cord as it enters a metal enclosure or metal plate.
if you use an extension cord as anything more than an extension cord, then the violation is on you. Extension cords are intended to be temporary methods of supplying power to an inaccessible area. Read all about it in the NEC. Did you have a master electrician class at LSU?

When I work in a factory, my biggest fear is an electrical engineer trying to tell a master electrician how to do his job.
 

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123Ken123

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if you use an extension cord as anything more than an extension cord, then the violation is on you. Extension cords are intended to be temporary methods of supplying power to an inaccessible area. Read all about it in the NEC. Did you have a master electrician class at LSU?

When I work in a factory, my biggest fear is an electrical engineer trying to tell a master electrician how to do his job.
Yes, listen to ignorant electricians who goes against a qualified engineer for 40 years. Go at it... and kill yourself from a great shock. Similar to nurses saying they are doctors, idiots in full swing. Now people like you also go against the NEC.
 

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123Ken123

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I know the answer so it is not my problem but everyone including you have a problem for not following the NEC. Go at it and kill yourself or a friend or family member from hot enclosures which will not open a circuit breaker by having a floating hot enclosure.
 

MrSalts

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Yes, listen to ignorant electricians who goes against a qualified engineer for 40 years. Go at it... and kill yourself from a great shock. Similar to nurses saying they are doctors, idiots in full swing. Now people like you also go against the NEC.
That's the problem with this thread. Reading skill, reading skills, reading skills. Nobody said to violate NEC. I said, a device is not in violation of an electric code - the installer is in violation if he uses an extension cord for more than an extension cord. Engineers don't read the NEC, they just think they know the NEC based on knee jerk decisions. I'm not a master electrician but I was responsible for manufacturing facilities - and I would never let an engineer wire anything. They don't know the code, they are knob turners, experimenters, arrogant fools. I'd much rather have a facility wired up by a master electrician than any engineer. I could equate the nurse to the engineer and the master electrician to the doctor. I am neither an EE or an electrician (thank god).
 

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123Ken123

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That's the problem with this thread. Reading skill, reading skills, reading skills. Nobody said to violate NEC. I said, a device is not in violation of an electric code - the installer is in violation if he uses an extension cord for more than an extension cord. Engineers don't read the NEC, they just think they know the NEC based on knee jerk decisions. I'm not a master electrician but I was responsible for manufacturing facilities - and I would never let an engineer wire anything. They don't know the code, they are knob turners, experimenters, arrogant fools. I'd much rather have a facility wired up by a master electrician than any engineer. I could equate the nurse to the engineer and the master electrician to the doctor. I am neither an EE or an electrician (thank god).
You are ignorant and ignored..
 

shortbus

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Sorry you do not understand. I am an electrical engineer almost straight As, from LSU and engineered 2 of the worlds largest nuclear plants plus engineered safety systems for plants for 40 years with all true electrical engineers full agreeing my understanding of grounding per NEC.
All these claims and yet you come to a forum to ask the question.

Lets see what NEC says about extension cord use - " National Electrical Code (NEC) does not allow extension cords in lieu of permanent wiring (NEC 400.8(1) – 2014 Version). General rule– if equipment is powered from an extension cord for more than 30 days, permanent solutions should be installed. "

You seem to be using an extension cord to the trailer, what this trailer is seems to be a mystery a blck box, but being a trailer it isn't permanent. Unless you talking about manufactured housing, in which case your defying NEC by not using a hard wiring system.

Now since NOCO actually says there product is an extension cord,
"AC Port Plug With 16 Inch Extension Cord" https://no.co/gcp1
If you were to leave this attached for over 30 days that would make you in violation of NEC yet again.
 
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