This is getting too real

cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
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Just read the article... because the link was broken this morning. But I found this fact to be rather interesting:

The researchers calculated that just storing information about a couple of hundred electrons would require a computer memory that would physically require more atoms than exist in the universe.

Perhaps, as one physicist once said, the only thing capable of simulating the universe is the universe itself.
 

Sinus23

Joined Sep 7, 2013
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Just read the article... because the link was broken this morning. But I found this fact to be rather interesting:

The researchers calculated that just storing information about a couple of hundred electrons would require a computer memory that would physically require more atoms than exist in the universe.

Perhaps, as one physicist once said, the only thing capable of simulating the universe is the universe itself.
It's almost like the universe has the smallest switches in the universe only beaten by a madman's imagination.;)
 

Kermit2

Joined Feb 5, 2010
4,162
Or the strange quantum behaviour we find is merely the discontinuity between the clock pulses that drive the simulation of reality on the Great Omnipotent Digital computer in which we exist as software.
 

joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
6,281
The researchers calculated that just storing information about a couple of hundred electrons would require a computer memory that would physically require more atoms than exist in the universe.
Actually, it requires... wait for it... only a couple of hundred electrons. Duh. Seems tautilogical to me.
 

joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
6,281
It shows how the scope of our science of computing is pathetically inadequate as a model of true reality.
Each electron has two constants -- mass and charge -- and two variables -- spin and momentum. The interactions are complex, but solvable -- electrons do it successfully every day.

Just because our math is limited, doesn't mean the problem is unsolvable. It just means our math has not progressed to a point to solve it -- while the universe has figured it out all by itself.

Yes, I read the article, and I understand the arguments.
 

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nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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Each electron has two constants -- mass and charge -- and two variables -- spin and momentum. The interactions are complex, but solvable -- electrons do it successfully every day.

Just because our math is limited, doesn't mean the problem is unsolvable. It just means our math has not progressed to a point to solve it -- while the universe has figured it out all by itself.

Yes, I read the article, and I understand the arguments.
I wish it were that simple to create copies of an arbitrary unknown quantum state. Reality as a simulation is a cop-out to the fact some problems are insolvable in this universe. Electrons do it because they are quantum particles, our mathematics is not a quantum state, it's only a incomplete description of one.
 

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nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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Sure! Every game allows the player to level up. Why should this one be different?
I'm not a gamer but sure game levels that increase the physics reality within the simulation. Only the real players (female super-intelligent beings) of the simulation get player levels in the Universe game.

 
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