Lack of prosecution of officers behaving badly is a failure of leadership in the department.

If the department recommended charges, and the DA failed to prosecute, the public can vote the DA out, if they have the wherewithall to REMEMBER the DA failures. Assistant DA's can be terminated and prosecuted for misconduct and disbarred.

And when was this? There is little desire in most districts to prosecute cops. The cops and the judicial side work together, hand in hand, there are very few places and very few cop "crimes" that are prosecuted.

 

Well, Baltimore dropped all charges on the cops.

Zero conviction. Nice job.

 

And when was this? There is little desire in most districts to prosecute cops. The cops and the judicial side work together, hand in hand, there are very few places and very few cop "crimes" that are prosecuted.

It happens a lot for the reason you stated.

There are disciplinary actions when cops fall outside the department guidelines. If the DA refuses to indict a cop, when there is sufficient evidence, the DA is at fault. If a DA indicts a cop with insufficient evidence, they should be disbarred. That's why we have grand juries. Remember, the DA can indict a ham sandwich, so I have been told over the years.

Pick an event, follow it through the due process.

 

Remember, the DA can indict a ham sandwich, so I have been told over the years.

No, that'd be a grand jury. DAs should be a bit more careful when deciding to indict.

 

'tis the first time I've seen you in a fatalistic mood ... but I guess it's hard to be optimistic in the face of so much failure ...

Well this is the War on Cops Thread. You can see me puttering around like nothing's wrong in other Threads.

In a most serious vein, the mass availability of video has exposed a problem I've seen all my life, and I'm severely white.
Ninety percent of the police I have met were busy making asses of themselves. They insult my intelligence, call me a liar as a mere reflex, issue pointless commands like somebody appointed them God, search everything they can find with no actual suspicion of a crime, perjure themselves by signing false traffic tickets just for the cash flow, and that's just the parts I have seen. Now their hubris is being exposed on the Internet every day and the police are reacting like it's a war on them, not a war on their sincere belief that neither The Constitution nor State or Local laws apply to them. Their answer is more guns, armor, beatings, killings, and disregard for our Constitutional Rights. They are screaming, "one bad apple" by the thousands per year, and your average cop on the beat is still a low I.Q. drone who doesn't know the laws he was hired to enforce and has violent tendencies, almost perfect impunity, an unlimited number of heavily armed cronies, and several computer systems that watch our every move, and they never forget or forgive.

Guess what? We the People have computers, too. The truth of the reality is leaking into the public domain. It's "contempt of cop" on a national scale, and the police are providing the script and the actors. Then they react like a wounded animal. "How dare you expose the way we operate on a daily basis? This means war!" "Wearing a camera is too cumbersome, but wearing full battle armor isn't."

If that kind of response prevails, the results are inevitable.

 

Well this is the War on Cops Thread. You can see me puttering around like nothing's wrong in other Threads.

In a most serious vein, the mass availability of video has exposed a problem I've seen all my life, and I'm severely white.
Ninety percent of the police I have met were busy making asses of themselves.

In a not so serious vein.
Maybe you're just an ass cop attractant. Ever think about changing your cologne?

 

In a not so serious vein.
Maybe you're just an ass cop attractant. Ever think about changing your cologne?

Hey... maybe @GopherT can come up with a formula for a cop deterrent ...

 

Well this is the War on Cops Thread. You can see me puttering around like nothing's wrong in other Threads.

In a most serious vein, the mass availability of video has exposed a problem I've seen all my life, and I'm severely white.
Ninety percent of the police I have met were busy making asses of themselves. They insult my intelligence, call me a liar as a mere reflex, issue pointless commands like somebody appointed them God, search everything they can find with no actual suspicion of a crime, perjure themselves by signing false traffic tickets just for the cash flow, and that's just the parts I have seen. Now their hubris is being exposed on the Internet every day and the police are reacting like it's a war on them, not a war on their sincere belief that neither The Constitution nor State or Local laws apply to them. Their answer is more guns, armor, beatings, killings, and disregard for our Constitutional Rights. They are screaming, "one bad apple" by the thousands per year, and your average cop on the beat is still a low I.Q. drone who doesn't know the laws he was hired to enforce and has violent tendencies, almost perfect impunity, an unlimited number of heavily armed cronies, and several computer systems that watch our every move, and they never forget or forgive.

Guess what? We the People have computers, too. The truth of the reality is leaking into the public domain. It's "contempt of cop" on a national scale, and the police are providing the script and the actors. Then they react like a wounded animal. "How dare you expose the way we operate on a daily basis? This means war!" "Wearing a camera is too cumbersome, but wearing full battle armor isn't."

If that kind of response prevails, the results are inevitable.

I guess you could say that being a cop brings has the potential of bringing out the worst of human nature

 

I guess you could say that being a cop brings has the potential of bringing out the worst of human nature

I think just being human does that.

 

DAs should be a bit more careful when deciding to indict.

Is that before or after an investigation? I tend to think the Baltimore DA rushed to judgement. Maybe some group will file a FOIA on all the evidence in the case, now that it's over.

 

I guess you could say that being a cop brings has the potential of bringing out the worst of human nature

You don't know anyone that brings out the worst in you? It happens to people that are not cops ... oh the humanity.

 

......................Ninety percent of the police I have met were busy making asses of themselves. They insult my intelligence, call me a liar as a mere reflex, issue pointless commands like somebody appointed them God, search everything they can find with no actual suspicion of a crime, perjure themselves by signing false traffic tickets just for the cash flow, and that's just the parts I have seen...........................

I think I understand you a little more. I have a friend that we refer to as the "cop magnet". He is a good friend, a good father, he is someone that does not put up with BS or crap, and he hates cops. He has nothing good to say about cops. Per his words he gets pulled over all the time. He gets a lot of tickets and he goes to court and gets most of them dismissed. He does not hesitate to speak his mind, probably right in the cops face. You would probably like him. He is a good guy.

 

Maybe you're just an ass cop attractant. Ever think about changing your cologne?

I did change my cologne. I bought a minivan (Aerostar) with lots of windows. Since then, I have been pulled over twice, and both times, I was guilty. I had a burned out headlight on one occasion and I forgot to place the year sticker on my license plate in the other event. Now that I have an SUV that looks like a bunch of Men in Black might be in the rear seats, I don't know if that will change the equation. Will the (factory) tinted windows draw more attention or will the local cops think I'm posh? I don't know, but I took out all but 2 seats, so there's (almost) nowhere to hide anything and you can search the inside with a single swing of a flashlight.

That fellow in Michigan, Castile, had been pulled over 52 times before he got killed. I haven't been pulled over half that many times, and I'm more than twice his age. Still, I think it's a fair sampling of police behavior when I say a major white bread like me finds 90% of police encounters to be insulting and reeking of ignorance and hubris.

 

I know a cop that's a $hit magnet. Fortunately he was found out within a year or so on the force and ended up in prison. He had more than a six pack of "hero syndrome."

 

He gets a lot of tickets and he goes to court and gets most of them dismissed.

Did you just say that most of his tickets are false accusations and he repeatedly proves it in court?
That's what I'm talking about. Chronic abuse of power under color of authority.

Here is a website with thousands of reports of cops who got caught, with no attempt at commentary.
And remember, these are just the ones who were so bad that the Thin Blue Wall of Silence wouldn't or couldn't protect them.
These, "one bad apples" are arrested and charged at a rate of dozens per week.
http://www.policemisconduct.net/

 

I have the maximum legal tint on my front door windows and factory tint the rest of the way around the dodge grand caravan. I have been stopped, mostly because I'm guilty of some traffic violation. Window tint was the first thing that happened when I moved to Texas.

 

He gets a lot of tickets and he goes to court and gets most of them dismissed.

That happens a lot when the cop fails to show up. After all, we do have a right to face our accusers. The flip side happens as well, those who would plead nolo contend o just pay the dam ticket.

 

You don't know anyone that brings out the worst in you?

I do!

 

That works until you suddenly get an IRS audit, the city claims your sewers pipes are leaking and your kids (or grand kids) suddenly flunk third grade.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/city-retaliating-against-residents-road-work/

 

It is a form of harassment. My friend tells the cop, who pulled him over for BS reasons, that he is full of s#!t. The cop writes him a ticket that the cop knows he can beat but it will cost him a few hours of hassle to make it go away.