The Great Remorse

strantor

Joined Oct 3, 2010
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https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/10/mic...reases-for-full-time-employees-this-year.html

Microsoft skips salary increases for full-time employees this year
I've skipping my own salary increases every year since 2017. Just raised my rates for the first time since I filed my current LLC. The 20% "hike" doesn't even get me to back to equivalent 2017 dollars per hour. From now on I think I'll just raise it a little bit, maybe quarterly, boiled frog style, keeping up with 2017.
 

cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
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I've skipping my own salary increases every year since 2017. Just raised my rates for the first time since I filed my current LLC. The 20% "hike" doesn't even get me to back to equivalent 2017 dollars per hour. From now on I think I'll just raise it a little bit, maybe quarterly, boiled frog style, keeping up with 2017.
Good strategy ... remember, it's not how much you need, but how much they think you're worth
 

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nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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https://www.seattletimes.com/busine...dipity-for-office-return-employees-want-data/
Amazon relies on ‘serendipity’ for office return; employees want data
That has left some workers feeling demoralized, distracted and undervalued as they struggle to stay focused and motivated, according to interviews and internal communications shared with The Times.

An Amazon manager, who is based on the East Coast and asked to speak anonymously to protect their job, said it is “dehumanizing,” and feels as if leadership doesn’t trust its employees to understand their reasoning. In Slack messages, employees anonymously posted that Amazon’s decisions were “dystopian” and creating “just a horrible situation.”
Don't like it, quit.
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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https://www.seattletimes.com/busine...dipity-for-office-return-employees-want-data/
Amazon relies on ‘serendipity’ for office return; employees want data


Don't like it, quit.
Agreed. But in many of these cases, a big part of the problem does lie at the foot of management because of these misplaced desires to come across as involving the employee in each and every facet of how the company operates. It creates a sense of entitlement that turns into a sense of betrayal when it turns out not to be the way things are.

At one university I was at the faculty had a vote of no confidence in the president. Turns out, when he came in several years earlier he had gone on and on about how he valued the input from the faculty and would base his decisions in it and this was a common refrain in the platitudes he would repeat over and over at various meetings, such as with the faculty senate. Turns out, he just ignored whatever they had to say (unless it was something that they were specifically empowered to do by the Rules and Bylaws) and did what he (and the rest of the administration) felt was best. That royally pissed off the faculty because they felt they had been misled (and they had). But most of those same faculty readily acknowledged that the prior president listened to the faculty even less, and yet there was never any outrage and nothing ever got close to having an official vote of no confidence. Why? Because the prior president made if very clear that is was his job to run the school as he saw fit and that he wasn't interested in faculty input in any significant way (sure, he accepted observations and suggestions, and sometimes acted on them, but it was purely from the standpoint of the faculty bringing things to his attention, not them having a say in how he ran the school). As a result, the faculty knew where they stood, and where they stood was consistent with where they were told that they stood.
 

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nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/meta-threatens-return-to-office-layoffs-18303435.php
Meta threatens to fire workers for return-to-office infractions
The Bay Area tech giant laid out its plan to hold workers to a stricter in-office regimen in a Thursday note, Insider reported. In the memo, Meta Head of People Lori Goler reportedly told employees that their managers would receive their badge data and that repeated violations of the new three-day-a-week requirement could cause workers to lose their jobs.
 

joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
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Gee, imagine that, don't show up to work repeatedly and you might get fired. Wow. Every place I ever worked, if you didn't show up to work even once when you were supposed to, it was grounds for termination unless you had a damn good reason.
Wasn't the brig also an option for you?
 

KL7AJ72

Joined Apr 15, 2021
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This whole phenomenon, including the so called "quiet quitting" fad, has never made any sense to me. People decide to do the minimum work they can get away with, while expecting to get the same (or more) pay, and then are shocked when their employer finds someone to replace them that is willing to do more for the same (or less) pay. Gee, who could have possibly seen that coming?
It just means more job security for those of us who WANT to work. I "officially" retired about 4 years ago, but I've been busier than a one-legged Flamenco dancer. I started two new businesses since "quitting work."
 

KL7AJ72

Joined Apr 15, 2021
22
It's pretty sad how the slow and steady approach of getting out of the last Great Recession was interrupted by someone putting a heavy hand and threatening the job of the Fed Chairman to force him to lower rates unnecessarily low to goose the market - which contributed to our current inflation and we have a very slim chance of the fed taking us in for a soft landing after pulling their only control lever back after they slammed it forward for the previous four years.

We'll be fine, we always have been and always will be - my only concern is lack of population growth and the dependence of our social security system on the next generation to pay for the current generation's benefit. I'm really surprised no politician is talking about the benefits of immigration - especially immigration of uneducated workers who might fill minimum wage jobs that have been infilled for the past three years. We need more tax payers.

Note: the tech workers are finding jobs at record rates - less than 30 days. The troubled unemployed group is the recruiters working for Google, Amazon and Meta. Three young graduates with HR, Business degrees moved out to SFO to work as recruiters. They now have $3000/month leases on one-bedroom apartments that they must pay with no income.
Yep. Japan has had zero population growth for a couple of decades and it's coming back to bite them.
 
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