The Great Remorse

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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Wood shop, electronics, and drafting were my favorite classes in high school.
I wouldn't call them my favorite, but I definitely enjoyed them. Took wood shop and drafting in junior high and then metal shop and electronics in high school. Learned skills in each that I still use from time to time today. But those were the typical shop classes, not the kind of trades classes I was referring to. We had an entire campus called the Career Enrichment Park. They had programs in auto shop, auto body, cabinet making, electrician, welding, culinary, horticulture, hotel and restaurant management, cosmetology, and a bunch of others I don't recall. There was a restaurant there was was completely run by students. You could graduate high school as a certified welder or auto repair technician. Interestingly, the cosmetology program was considered one of the most challenging, because you had to finish all of your high school graduation requirements by the end of your junior year since your senior year was a full-year apprenticeship with an employer. Although I knew I wanted to be an engineer, and so focused hard on the academic courses, I would loved to have been able to also go through any of a number of those programs, too, but just had no time available to do it because they were all very intense programs. A lot of my peers felt the same way. I never saw any discernible sense of people looking down at the ones that went that path. But about a decade after I graduated they did away with the CEP entirely.
 

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nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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I wouldn't call them my favorite, but I definitely enjoyed them. Took wood shop and drafting in junior high and then metal shop and electronics in high school. Learned skills in each that I still use from time to time today. But those were the typical shop classes, not the kind of trades classes I was referring to. We had an entire campus called the Career Enrichment Park. They had programs in auto shop, auto body, cabinet making, electrician, welding, culinary, horticulture, hotel and restaurant management, cosmetology, and a bunch of others I don't recall. There was a restaurant there was was completely run by students. You could graduate high school as a certified welder or auto repair technician. Interestingly, the cosmetology program was considered one of the most challenging, because you had to finish all of your high school graduation requirements by the end of your junior year since your senior year was a full-year apprenticeship with an employer. Although I knew I wanted to be an engineer, and so focused hard on the academic courses, I would loved to have been able to also go through any of a number of those programs, too, but just had no time available to do it because they were all very intense programs. A lot of my peers felt the same way. I never saw any discernible sense of people looking down at the ones that went that path. But about a decade after I graduated they did away with the CEP entirely.
The HS I attended in Dallas was a 'Magnet' school with a large number of trade courses. What was great about the place was the mix of people and programs.
I was so grateful to have been selected to be there even if also include a long bus ride from the sticks where we lived.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyline_High_School_(Texas)

Academics

Sign commemorating Skyline's CDC, outside of B-building
Skyline High School has the following programs:

Early College HS[24]

The entrance of the Aviation section of A-building
Magnet - Career Development Center:[25]
Advanced Mathematics
Advanced Science
Advanced Social Sciences
Aviation
Architecture
Automotive Technology
Construction Technology
Cosmetology
Culinary Arts
Fashion Marketing & Apparel Design
Graphic Design & Illustration
Interior Design
Photography
Radio Television & Film
World Languages

Mural, included are symbols of the multitude of programs at Skyline
Career Pathways:[26]
NAF Academies:
Academy of Engineering
Academy of Finance
Academy of Health Science
Academy of Hospitality & Tourism
Academy of Information Technology
JROTC
Video Game Design
Floral & Horticulture
 

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nsaspook

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https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/18/ibm_job_cuts/
IBM has been laying off a substantial number of employees this week and is trying to keep it quiet, our sources have said.

One IBM employee told The Register that IBM Cloud experienced "a massive layoff" in the past few days that affected thousands of people.
...
IBM's first-quarter 2024 earnings report said that the mainframe goliath took a $400 million "workforce rebalancing" charge to cover the cost of planned layoffs. That's after a $300 million "workforce rebalancing" charge in 2023. At the beginning of 2023, IBM announced plans to cut 3,900 jobs.

With about 288,000 employees worldwide at the end of 2023, the "very low single digit percentage" possibilities for 2024 might be 1 percent (2,880 layoffs), 2 percent (5,760 layoffs), 3 percent (8,640 layoffs), or more. Assuming a fixed cost per employee, last year's charge and job cut disclosure suggests about 5,200 positions would be eliminated with a $400 million charge.
 

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nsaspook

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https://www.phonearena.com/news/mass-layoffs-samsungs-exynos-dreams-crushed_id162805
Mass layoffs to follow after Samsung’s Exynos dreams get crushed again

Though it hadn’t even become fully operational yet, Samsung’s plant in Taylor, Texas is now being operated by a skeleton crew. The plant was supposed to help cement the company’s chip manufacturing dreams. Falling behind and losing customers to TSMC (Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company) has spurred the company into overdrive, but to no avail as of yet.

The main reason for Samsung’s lack of success in the chip manufacturing business is its poor yield. According to reports, the 2 nm chips Samsung has been working on have a yield as low as 10 percent at times. This seriously puts in jeopardy Samsung’s plans to manufacture 1.4 nm chips by 2027.
 

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nsaspook

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10% yield??? is that for real?
Very real. Been there and done that to 95+% yield.
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Starting a new process, in a new FAB, it could be anything. There's a a old industry story about low yields that got several process engineers fired at a new FAB. The 'tale' is that one of the operators was a big guy that sweated a lot and while moving photo resist some of his sweat would drip in the the chemical vats causing sodium contamination. It took a while to comb the data to isolate the root cause.

The industry still has a lot of Black Magic yield tricks earned by blood over the years. The grey hairs and beards are kept because they know where the yield monsters are hidden. The new fabs don't have that type of grey experience and old guys don't like to move to a new cauldron of trouble unless the pay is ridiculously high.

https://www.semiconductors.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Yield.pdf

Yield learning is defined as the collection and application of process and wafer knowledge to improve device yield
through the identification and resolution of systematic and random manufacturing events. Currently, yield learning is not
described by technology requirements and potential solutions.
The semiconductor industry operates in an environment of exponentially decaying product prices, which put
semiconductor manufacturers under time-to-market pressure. Profitability is derived from an early and successful yield
ramp. The sooner a semiconductor manufacturer generates high yield, the earlier the manufacturer ramps to volume
production, and the more profitable the semiconductor manufacturer’s integrated circuit venture is likely to be. Improving
the systematic component of yield, which frequently constrains yield in the early stages of manufacturing, can enhance
profitability by enabling production at a point in time when chip prices are very high. Yield learning in the early stages of
manufacturing may thus differ significantly from yield learning in the later stages of manufacturing. Beside this, any
transition from one technology generation to the next is accompanied by a decrease in initial yield. Along with a
technology generation change, for example, new materials or litho processes have to be introduced. These changes have
to be implemented in parallel with new technology generations. Monitoring capabilities, inspection, metrology to
properly cover the issues of latest technology generations cause enormous expenses and require concentrated research and
development.
The key requirements for achieving highly sophisticated yield ramps include the detection of ever-shrinking, yield
detracting defects of interest, timely identification of root causes with growing data volume, chip complexity, process
complexity, and improving the yield learning rate per each cycle of learning. With increasing process complexity and
longer cycle times, tools and methods are needed to increase the number of yield learning cycles for each technology
generation. Also, with continuous move to smaller features and longer processes, larger wafers, and new materials,
numerous tools and methods are required to understand the entire yield detracting interactions.
 
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WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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10% yield??? is that for real?
Yield is perhaps the greatest challenge for most chip manufacturers and requires a level of quality control that requires a correspondingly highly trained and experienced work force. Places like TSMC did not get where they are overnight -- it was decades of extreme effort and workforce development. Sometimes other companies (or governments) think that it is just a matter of throwing a lot of money to buy the latest equipment and you are ready to go. Just doesn't work that way.

10% yield is pretty low, but not unheard of. For consumer electronics, it's absolutely horrible. For cutting edge stuff, sometimes it's par for the course. One of our customers would have been thrilled with 10% yield, but then their product had not only a silicon wafer, but also a mer-cad-telluride detector array that was bump-bonded to the silicon read-out chip that requires significant pressure between two very brittle chips to get the million or so bumps to bond. It was also a very large chip, about two square inches. When you multiplied all of the yields involved they ended up down in the 5% range. Not surprisingly, these chips were pretty expensive to their customers.
 

cmartinez

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Yield is perhaps the greatest challenge for most chip manufacturers and requires a level of quality control that requires a correspondingly highly trained and experienced work force. Places like TSMC did not get where they are overnight -- it was decades of extreme effort and workforce development. Sometimes other companies (or governments) think that it is just a matter of throwing a lot of money to buy the latest equipment and you are ready to go. Just doesn't work that way.

10% yield is pretty low, but not unheard of. For consumer electronics, it's absolutely horrible. For cutting edge stuff, sometimes it's par for the course. One of our customers would have been thrilled with 10% yield, but then their product had not only a silicon wafer, but also a mer-cad-telluride detector array that was bump-bonded to the silicon read-out chip that requires significant pressure between two very brittle chips to get the million or so bumps to bond. It was also a very large chip, about two square inches. When you multiplied all of the yields involved they ended up down in the 5% range. Not surprisingly, these chips were pretty expensive to their customers.
With 5% yields I'm sure that testing and verification had to be extremely thorough before releasing each chip to the market. That must've significantly added to their final price.
 

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nsaspook

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https://www.oregonlive.com/silicon-...egon-as-part-of-broader-companywide-cuts.html
Intel will lay off 1,300 in Oregon as part of broader companywide cuts

Oregon is the company’s largest site anywhere in the world, and its most advanced. Intel develops each new generation of its computer chips at its Hillsboro manufacturing campus, then replicates that manufacturing process? at factories in Arizona, Ireland and Israel.
 

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nsaspook

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https://techcrunch.com/2024/10/17/a...-they-dont-like-its-return-to-office-mandate/

Amazon indicates employees can quit if they don’t like its return-to-office mandate
AWS CEO Matt Garman has harsh words for remote workers: return to the office or quit. The Amazon executive recently told employees who don’t like the new five-day in-person work policy that, “there are other companies around,” presumably companies they can work for remotely, Reuters reported on Thursday.
"...controversial 5-day-per-week in-office policy..."

Ha.
 
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