The Flashing LED project. The fundamentals.

Wolframore

Joined Jan 21, 2019
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the flash as you call it is just a current flow indicator. Like the old flash charge light. While the current flows to charge the cap the led is on. When it’s done no more flow so it turns off.
 

Alec_t

Joined Sep 17, 2013
15,131
What's going on there if the LED is breaking the circuit?
The LED isn't breaking the circuit; it's completing the series circuit. Once the cap has charged the only current that can flow is miniscule leakage current. That passes through both the cap and the LED.
 

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RAMBO999

Joined Feb 26, 2018
259
A capacitor will block DC currents, and the diode only allows current in one direction. That's why there's no way to discharge the capacitor in your circuit.
Caps do not block DC. You apply a DC voltage to a cap and it will charge up to the supply votage and no more. If you then attach an LED anode to the cap cathode and the LED cathode to the cap anode the cap will dissipate charge down to the threshold voltage of the LED. For example, I have an LED with a specified voltage range of 3.2 to 3.8 volts. The actual threshold voltage is 2.8 volts. If I charge an appropriate cap to 3.8 volts and then connect the LED to it the LED flashes and goes off. When you measure the charge in the cap it is not competely discharged but shows a voltage of 2.8 volts: the threshold voltage of the LED. Try it.
 

Audioguru

Joined Dec 20, 2007
11,248
You need an oscillator to make repeated flashing. A transistor or a 555 timer can be an oscillator.
You can buy a flashing LED that already has the flashing circuit inside it.
 

SamR

Joined Mar 19, 2019
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simulation will help to explain things :
That is what I saw when he first posted. This is how it is supposed to work. Quite a different matter than all in series. I can see this possible working but didn't try it in LTS.

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RAMBO999

Joined Feb 26, 2018
259
That is what I saw when he first posted. This is how it is supposed to work. Quite a different matter than all in series. I can see this possible working but didn't try it in LTS.

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I just knocked that one up. The LED is lit but not flashing. I didn't have a 2.2mF cap so I put a few together in parallel. Closest I could get was within 0.34 mF. Don't know if that's a problem. Anyway. I will do a few sums based on this layout see what they turn up. My LED was a 3.2 to 3.8 volt one. But 3v lights it up obviously. Tried it with a 1.8 -eo 2.2 red LED too. Same result. I need to get a 2.2 cap and give it another go before I can definitively say it doesn't work.
 
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