So. That new minimum wage thing. Might as well start disgusing it here.

Sinus23

Joined Sep 7, 2013
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However I declined a job offer about 20 days ago that would pay $5 per hour more than what my current job pays. But on the other hand it would be paid under the table with no benefits and no security what so ever. Plus the grincore stress and manual labor that follows construction. Ah very few things do beat the feeling of not being desperate:cool:
 

joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
6,344
In 1998, banks got the green light to gamble: The Glass-Steagall legislation, which separated regular banks and investment banks was repealed in 1998. This allowed banks, whose deposits were guaranteed by the FDIC, i.e. the government, to engage in highly risky business.
Fixed one for you.
 

shortbus

Joined Sep 30, 2009
10,049
I too was never really unemployed. The only time I ever collected unemployment benefits was for two weeks when the plant was shut down for an electrical substation replacement.
 

joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
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During periods of unemployment, I sold myself out as a consultant. Interestingly enough, I made more money during those periods than had I had a "real" job. Unfortunately, I spent 12 hours doing actual work, and the other 12 hours trying to find the next job. I hate sales, and, it seems, the primary job of a consultant is selling himself.
 

ronv

Joined Nov 12, 2008
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During periods of unemployment, I sold myself out as a consultant. Interestingly enough, I made more money during those periods than had I had a "real" job. Unfortunately, I spent 12 hours doing actual work, and the other 12 hours trying to find the next job. I hate sales, and, it seems, the primary job of a consultant is selling himself.
Yea, I know that one. To much work.:rolleyes:
I guess it must have been my penchant for start up that put me out of work. :(
But it's okay 1 1/2 out of 4 isn't to bad.:D
 

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tcmtech

Joined Nov 4, 2013
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During periods of unemployment, I sold myself out as a consultant. Interestingly enough, I made more money during those periods than had I had a "real" job. Unfortunately, I spent 12 hours doing actual work, and the other 12 hours trying to find the next job. I hate sales, and, it seems, the primary job of a consultant is selling himself.

I've been self -employed far more than I have ever been employed by any company and I rather like it that way.

People have always asked me why I would rather work for myself than for anyone else andI have always said it's simple.

Given the actions of my past employers, it's obvious any idiot can make money.

Working for myself I make the same average crappy annual pay but have twice as much free time and no fixed schedules to follow.

Regardless of who I work for whether I die rich or broke is ultimately up to me so why burn up my lifes worth making someone who doesn't care about me rich at my expense

I have just enough brains, honesty, and work ethic to make any half crooked manager or boss leery of having me around so regardless of how much money I make for an employer I am almost always the first guy they let go fo for any reason they can find.

And above all I make it clear to any employer I have that I can support myself just fine so threatening me at work over the security of my job has near zero effect or concern to me. I will go above and beyond to support the company and my coworkers but be damned if I will cover up an idiots mistakes day after day just to keep my job. :p
 

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tcmtech

Joined Nov 4, 2013
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Speaking of hourly rates,what does a fully benefited mail carrier make an hour.

Have a guess,if you don't know.
Depends on their location and seniority but around here $40 - $45K a year is bottom end and it goes up substantially from there. So say ~$20 an hour minimum plus benefits for full-time employees.
 

joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
6,344
Working for myself I make the same average crappy annual pay but have twice as much free time and no fixed schedules to follow.
Agreed. I am self-employed today, as in, I am the owner of the business that employs me, and have been for many years.

This is quite a bit different than being a 1099 consultant -- in that I can hire people to do the things I don't want to do, like sales.
 

johnmariow

Joined May 4, 2016
19
What am I supposed to tell them? o_O

Get off your welfare sucking butts and go build more roads or expand the ones you have now if that's what you need? :rolleyes:

I don't live there and where I do is not run by big government BS like they run their state.
The sad fact is that employers want people who have been steadily employed. Does the state you live in enforce Workfare as a part of Welfare?
 

johnmariow

Joined May 4, 2016
19
So you're all for those who are working and have not yet reached the age of majority, receive the "livable" minimum wage even though they are still in school and have not left their parent's home and have little marketable skills.
I don't think we can stop the increase in the minimum wage. As of Jan 2014, thirteen states increased the minimum wage. The minimum wage only applies to those specified in the law. In Connecticut it did not apply to waitresses or to sales people who earn a commission on each sale. I don't know if it applied to students.

Some companies post the minimum wage laws on bulletin boards.
 

JoeJester

Joined Apr 26, 2005
4,390
The state know their prevailing wage better then the feds. The federal one size fits all solution is a problem. I doubt 15 an hour is a livable wage in NYC.

Everything is political. Look up the history of the Davis bacon act.
 

ronv

Joined Nov 12, 2008
3,770
We have 3 choices this time.
One to leave it as is. One to raise it to 15 and one to raise it to 12 and let the states worry about the rest.
 
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