Singularity: Big bang < -------------------- > Black hole.

Discussion in 'Physics' started by socratus, Aug 2, 2015.

  1. socratus

    Thread Starter Active Member

    Mar 26, 2012
    absolute zero.jpg
    Singularity: Big big ang < -------------------- > Black hole.
    Strong gravitational field gathered < ----- > Strong gravitational field
    all masses of the Universe into --------- collapsed and created
    a very hot (!) singular point. --------- very cold (!) singular point.

    This singular point must have < ----- > This singular point has no volume
    a volume (because it has masses) ---- (it means – doesn't have masses)

    BB singular point was expanded < ----- > The fate of BH point is unknown.

    The expanding of BB point < --------------- > The collapsing of BH point
    is " beginning of the time" --------- is " end of the time"

    There is evidence for big bang: < ------ > There is evidence for black hole:
    cosmic microwave radiation 2,7K ----- unseen object called Cygnus X
    ------- . ---- . -------- . ------ and a number of other objects in our galaxy.

    My conclusions:
    Let us consider that these two theories are correct. Then BB must begin
    its way to hot singularity from "a temperature of only one ten-millionth
    of a degree above absolute zero." But in this region the gravity field
    is very weak. So, which power was created hot singularity?
    The answer can be only one: Electrodynamics.
    "Is the electromagnetic force really strong?"
    "It is very strong and this is surprising too because it can work over
    an infinite range. To give you an idea, the electromagnetic force is
    approximately 10^36 times stronger than the earth's gravitational field!
    That is (to put it in perspective)
    1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times stronger
    than gravity on Earth!"
    Best wishes.
    Israel Sadovnik Socratus.
  2. LDC3

    Active Member

    Apr 27, 2013
    I don't think that a black hole is very cold.
    1. If matter falls into the black hole, it looses potential energy and creates heat.
    2. Black hole are created from supernova explosions (probably the hottest object in the universe). Only the expanding shell of material blown away from the core cools down (relatively) quickly.
  3. Glenn Holland


    Dec 26, 2014
    The hyper intense gravitational force is one of the problems of using classical thermodynamics to analyze the temperature of a black hole.
    In an ordinary environment (such as at the earth's surface, thermal energy is much greater than the gravitational energy at the surface and particle motion can occur. However, gravity completely opposes any motion along the radial axis of a black hole and that might inhibit (or prohibit) any thermal motion in a vertical direction. So restricted Brownian Motion in a black hole may be limit the temperature from falling objects.
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  4. socratus

    Thread Starter Active Member

    Mar 26, 2012

    .. . . a "black hole" has a temperature of only one ten-millionth
    of a degree above absolute zero.
    / Stephen Hawking, book: "The theory of everything. “/
  5. Glenn Holland


    Dec 26, 2014
    Hawking may be right -at least in a very general sense.

    My previous post on this subject presented a concept of how intense gravitational forces could influence the thermodynamic behavior of the particles that comprise a black hole. Keep in mind that a black hole (and a neutron star) is a huge "singular" particle consisting of very elementary particles instead of atoms or molecules.

    Concerning the possible behavior of elementary particles, let's recall the process of how the thermal energy is consumed during the collapse of a massive star. Iron (and the heavier elements) are formed when lighter elements are fused into heavier ones. However, the fusion of the lighter elements into iron is an "endo-energetic" process that absorbs thermal energy and converts it to mass in accordance with m = e/c Sqd.

    So, can these elementary particles fuse together and absorb thermal energy (heat) and the mass gets colder, or does the process resemble conventional adiabatic compression and the mass gets hotter?