Salvaged 5 phase stepper driver interfacing issues

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russell nemec

Joined Jun 16, 2018
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Hello so this is my first post and I'm not really sure about how to go about this so bear with me. I am self taught and have been messing around with electro-mechanical systems since I could pick up a screw driver so I may be ignorant to some of the stuff I may need to know however, I have a set of boards that have everything I need to run two 5 phase (.72 / .36) including endstop and some kind of rotational homing setup. The motors I have are Berger lahr rdm 566/50 and 564/50. They came out of a few slm aminco uv/vis photospectrometer I think model dw2000, along with the drivers. They ran the pl600 (base unit of the assembly).

I have traced the traces and reviewed many datasheets for the ics. I get a bit confused about a couple of the logic bits. The problem I am having is finding a datasheets or service manual on the board itself. I've found what I believe to be two pins for selecting the stepper to drive, one step pin, one labeled u/d I assume is a direction pin, and a completely unidentified pin.

I have connected an Arduino nano and tried to use the unidentified pin as both a step enable pin and half step enable pin. I may be totally off on that and I was thinking it may be an oscillation signal that drove the step incrementation but im not so sure so I'm here. My results none the less for everything I did ended up being the motor I chose would go stiff and wouldn't take a step in either direction.

The board highlights might be its a two sided none multilayered board from the 1980s, mosfet h bridge style driver with a driving circuit, nothing else on board other than a 12 and 5 volt regulator circuit.
Components on board.
3X 74ls04n (hex inverter)
22X mje6044* (npn mosfet)**
2X n82s23n (256-bit ttl bipolar prom)
5X 75451n (duel hs/hc peripheral drivers)
1X sn74ls221n (monostable multivibrator)
1X 74ls00n (quad nand gate)
2X mc14510b (unsure, cmos presettable up/down counter)

* The other two boards use 2n6039s, otherwise they are the same.
** 2 mosfets drive a set of fans I believe

Any help would be appreciated, I've done what I know how to do and not sure where to go from here so thanks in advance.
 

shortbus

Joined Sep 30, 2009
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@ DNA Robotics, I agree. Those 5 phase steppers were never that popular, and have pretty much died out since they started making "hybrid" steppers. The 5PH were a way to keep a position when not stepping, something the 2 phase hybrid motor does much simpler.
 

DNA Robotics

Joined Jun 13, 2014
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MC14510B BCD Up Down Counter.jpg
MC14510B BCD Up/Down Counter
http://www.datasheetlib.com/datasheet/271286/mc14510b_motorola-semiconductor.html#datasheet

I think I would power up the board and send pulses to the #15 clock pin on the MC14510B and see what happens. Cut the PCB trace to that pin if you have to.
If that works, you can set the # 10 up/down pin to change directions.

Another way would be to tie A, C, E, G & J to +12 volts and use logic level N MOSFETs on B, D, F, H & K and let your Arduino run it like a unipolar stepper. Then output a pattern like
10000
01000
00100
00010
00001 etc.

It might be tricky figuring out the sequence and polarities if the wires are not labeled.
5 Phase unipolar stepper.jpg
 

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russell nemec

Joined Jun 16, 2018
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See I've considered running the motor from the fets like a unipolar but the driver is complete and all on one boards plus they fit in the enclosure I want to use for the electronics. I do have a few 12 volt unipolars I'm using for a small pcb mill. I've just got 10 of these motors and three drivers that can run two motors and very little extra cash. I plan on using them on a high res 3d printer that's 3'x3'x3'. It'll be a slow printer but I'm not worried about that. The logic input scheme seems the same or similar to an easydriver, again I'm just having interfacing issues. I'll include a couple pictures of the unit. In the image of the back of the unit the gray wire and black red and white wires are all pinouts going to my nano.
 

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