Rf Signal Detector

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motorhead88

Joined Jun 9, 2019
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Hi
im working on a project in which i have to detect an ASK receiver (which mostly use for open/close the relay to open/close a parking door or a car door) signal and when im getting closer to this reciever the buzzer should has a more Continuous sound.
Can anyone hand me a hint for the circuit and anything for this project?
the following photo shows the module we usually use for the reciever (relay part) side
Thanks
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
18,089
Sorry, I don't understand the question. You mentioned a garage door and a buzzer. I can't tell what you have or what you want to change. Thanks for the picture but a few more details would help a lot.
 

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motorhead88

Joined Jun 9, 2019
21
Thanks for your reply
Suppose that there is a Garage door and we dont have the remote control for it...
also we dont know where is the reciever (which opens/closes the relay)
first we need to find the reciever... So we need a circuit which can find it (i posted the reciever module which we want to find)
if the reciever is so far so the buzzer sound is not continuous
when we get closer to the reciever the buzzer sound will be more stable
i need this cicuit which can recognize the reciever location
buzzer is just for guiding the person who wants to find it and the picture i posted is just the reciever(for the door) we want to find
 

BR-549

Joined Sep 22, 2013
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One might walk around the garage with a sensitive receiver, listening for a local oscillator.

Many small receivers use regenerative circuits. So they don't oscillate until a signal is received.

One would need a transmit a sweep and listen for an echo, strategy.

One other strategy might be a sensitive thermal detector.

But what ever you do, it will be difficult, and if the receiver circuit designer knows you're looking for it......make it impossible.
 

danadak

Joined Mar 10, 2018
4,057
Receiver is in a locked garage ?

If its a matter of you losing your receiver you will find detection especially hard
if receiver circuit is powered down until a button press. Especially if its on a
super low speed clock when sleeping.

What is max worst case distance to receiver ?

Regards, Dana.
 

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motorhead88

Joined Jun 9, 2019
21
Thanks for your reply
i want to check a box to find that is there a hidden reciever in it or not
the most longest distance is something about 2 or 3 cm
i want to check is there a reciever which can open/close the relay (its near the rf reciever module) in the box or not
i dont need a lcd display or something else. i just want a sound of a buzzer to find that (should be continuesly sound)
is there any way ?
another way i thought in the past was switching on/off the relay without sending a signal ... do you think there is any solution for this??
all i want to know is discovering the reciever or relay in a close box (which i cant open it)
Thanks
 

danadak

Joined Mar 10, 2018
4,057
Most modern receivers for garage door openers also have a
button on their box to activate the door relay. So a user can open
door from within garage. I gather yours does not.

Without setting up a transmitter and transmitting all possible codes
not sure you can do this.

Maybe someone else at Forum has a better idea.


Regards, Dana.
 

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motorhead88

Joined Jun 9, 2019
21
i found that they usually use SYN470R in the reciever part
may i find a way to make the oscillator work for a few seconds and while its working detect the oscillation procedure ?
 

BobaMosfet

Joined Jul 1, 2009
2,211
It's a receiver. Does the term 'receiver' confuse you? Receiver's don't transmit per se. I can tell you this- it won't be very far from the motor used to lift the garage door.
 

AnalogKid

Joined Aug 1, 2013
12,050
I think the whole garage thing was just an example. Try this:

If the device in the post #1 photo is connected to a battery and sealed in a box, can it be detected by a sensing system about 1 inch away?

Is that it?

ak
 

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motorhead88

Joined Jun 9, 2019
21
i thought that this forum has many literate and educated members who can help in electronics issues
unfortunately i see some stupid and primary comments on my question
i dont see any useful answer
you changed my mind about this forum
Thank you
 

dendad

Joined Feb 20, 2016
4,635
This forum is very useful.
But you must admit, your question is rather strange. And strange, not clearly explained questions do get some strange answers.
Can you explain why you would need to find a receiver for a door opener in the first place? If you were in the garage legitimately, I would imagine you would have access to the receive/controller. Hence the "odd" comments to your question.
Still, if you want to leave, that is your choice.
Often, new thread posters do not like the answers they get as they have ideas of the way they want to do things already, and do not like being told it is not the best way, or even possible.
 
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