PWM Motor Circuit Question.

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BobbyTheD

Joined Mar 10, 2016
37
Hi there -

I'm currently using this circuit to power a motor - and it's working pretty well.

The only issue, though, is that there is not much of a slope between "off" and "on" - the motor essentially won't run at a particularly "slow" speed.

Since I'm new to this, I'm curious if this is something that can be changed in the circuitry or something particular to these types of motors.

Thanks.
 

Alec_t

Joined Sep 17, 2013
14,330
I'm curious if this is something that can be changed in the circuitry or something particular to these types of motors.
As the duty cycle is reduced, so is the average drive torque. The motor can't run if that torque is less than the frictional torque. Frictional torque varies widely from one motor to another and is likely to increase with decreasing motor cost.
 

Thread Starter

BobbyTheD

Joined Mar 10, 2016
37
Yes - the strange thing about the 555 circuit is that it seems to give a wider range of motor operation - but the sacrifice is that there isn't a strong "off" - the motor keeps humming, even when it is no longer rotating. Maybe this all ties into what Alec_t is saying - though I don't understand all the direct implications there: I'm just an amateur. Is there another circuit that covers all of these bases?
 

Alec_t

Joined Sep 17, 2013
14,330
Whatever circuit you use to create the PWM you are likely to experience the same 'it suddenly stops', due to the type of motor.
 

MaxHeadRoom

Joined Jul 18, 2013
28,698
Yes - the strange thing about the 555 circuit is that it seems to give a wider range of motor operation - but the sacrifice is that there isn't a strong "off" - the motor keeps humming, even when it is no longer rotating.
You could use a pot type with a rear OFF switch to create a defined OFF.
Max.
 

BobTPH

Joined Jun 5, 2013
8,996
If you are trying to run a motor really slow, like less than 100 RPM, PWM will not do that. You need a gear motor + PWM so that the actual motor is running much faster.

Bob
 

MaxHeadRoom

Joined Jul 18, 2013
28,698
If not requiring the highest rpm of the motor, it is usually more economical to go with a smaller motor and gearbox reduction.
This would solve your problem.
Max.
 

cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
8,257
In order to get very low speeds out of that sort of motor, you'd have to add an encoder to it to get positive feedback regarding its current speed. Take a look at this thread, there's a rather nice circuit there by @Bernard that more or less complies with what you want.

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