Proof of 'natural selection'

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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I won't be too surprised if we find out they were just drunk and had not idea what they were doing.

When I was on active duty (1986 time frame) we had a local that got skunk drunk and was headed home down the highway that transected the base. He turned off one exit too early and went right past the guard house (most base entrances didn't have true "gates" back then) and was headed straight between the hangers and out onto the flight line that had 40+ F-15s sitting on it. He never made it -- an M-60 put an end to his run in short order. Amazingly, while the pickup was wholesaled, the driver got off without a scratch. Apparently when he hit the curb at the end of the rode and was going down the embankment to the hangar apron he fell of the seat and down onto the floor so that the engine block shielded him from the machine gun fire.
 

cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
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I won't be too surprised if we find out they were just drunk and had not idea what they were doing.

When I was on active duty (1986 time frame) we had a local that got skunk drunk and was headed home down the highway that transected the base. He turned off one exit too early and went right past the guard house (most base entrances didn't have true "gates" back then) and was headed straight between the hangers and out onto the flight line that had 40+ F-15s sitting on it. He never made it -- an M-60 put an end to his run in short order. Amazingly, while the pickup was wholesaled, the driver got off without a scratch. Apparently when he hit the curb at the end of the rode and was going down the embankment to the hangar apron he fell of the seat and down onto the floor so that the engine block shielded him from the machine gun fire.
I'm trying to imagine what his hangover felt like after that...
 

joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
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There is no need for additional proof of the concept of "natural selection" -- there is both plenty of scientific and anecdotal evidence to support this part of the Theory of Evolution.

What I'd like to see is concrete evidence of speciation. In the immediate case, a species of criminally (or stupidity) oriented "humans" who are more likely to survive (and, subsequently procreate) because of their criminal or stupid behavior rather than in spite of it.

Oh, and to be valid, they must not be biologically able to produce viable offspring with other, non-evolved, humans.
 

cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
8,220
There is no need for additional proof of the concept of "natural selection" -- there is both plenty of scientific and anecdotal evidence to support this part of the Theory of Evolution.

What I'd like to see is concrete evidence of speciation. In the immediate case, a species of criminally (or stupidity) oriented "humans" who are more likely to survive (and, subsequently procreate) because of their criminal or stupid behavior rather than in spite of it.

Oh, and to be valid, they must not be biologically able to produce viable offspring with other, non-evolved, humans.
That might very well happen once in a while. But it cannot remain the norm, since humans are a social species, and we depend on one another, wether we like it or not.
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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There is no need for additional proof of the concept of "natural selection" -- there is both plenty of scientific and anecdotal evidence to support this part of the Theory of Evolution.

What I'd like to see is concrete evidence of speciation. In the immediate case, a species of criminally (or stupidity) oriented "humans" who are more likely to survive (and, subsequently procreate) because of their criminal or stupid behavior rather than in spite of it.

Oh, and to be valid, they must not be biologically able to produce viable offspring with other, non-evolved, humans.
You should meet some of my cousins! :D
 

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nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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I was gonna ram the NSA, but then I got high
I was gonna steal some secrets, but then I got high
Now I just won a Darwin Award, and I know whhhhyyyyy

cause I got high, cause I got high, cause I got highhhhh.
Shamelessly stolen from elsewhere.
 
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#12

Joined Nov 30, 2010
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I won't be too surprised if we find out they were just drunk and had not idea what they were doing.
That's the sad part for me. The standard response to Drunk and Stupid is bullets...lots of bullets...large bullets if possible.

I wouldn't treat the NSA like that if they tried to break into my secrets!

Oh, wait. They did.
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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That's the sad part for me. The standard response to Drunk and Stupid is bullets...lots of bullets...large bullets if possible.

I wouldn't treat the NSA like that if they tried to break into my secrets!

Oh, wait. They did.
In many places I agree that this would be an overreaction. In many places it is not. When you have a truck careening towards over a billion dollars of fully-fueled jet fighters (and just shortly after we had bombed Libya), itchy trigger fingers are not unreasonable. As for the situation at the NSA, I don't know. Ideally the security response protocols would take into account the potential damage of each specific threat, but in practice that's usually not feasible and so you treat the installation as a whole as one vulnerability and you treat all threat vectors, such as physical breach at a gate (any gate) as being the same.

And let's face it, Drunk and Stupid ALWAYS has a high mortality rate ("Yo, Dude! Hold my beer and watch this!").
 

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nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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These two Jackwagons had the choice of not to stealing the SUV and crashing the gate.
This is a tragedy, for the injured officer.
 

shortbus

Joined Sep 30, 2009
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"Sources say the two inside were men dressed as women. Preliminary information indicated the two men were partying at an area hotel with a third individual when they took that individual's car without permission. However, it's still unclear how or why they ended up at the NSA gate."

Their first day as a woman and they had to stop for directions! Who would of known?
 

killivolt

Joined Jan 10, 2010
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These two Jackwagons had the choice of not to stealing the SUV and crashing the gate.
This is a tragedy, for the injured officer.
Maybe death by cop; after watching the clip I'm thinking it's possible this individual driving was unstable enough they didn't want to continue.

Has the passenger made a statement?

kv
 

joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
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These two Jackwagons had the choice of not to stealing the SUV and crashing the gate.
This is a tragedy, for the injured officer.
Quote from the video: "It coulda happened to anyone..."

Ummmm...yea.

In fact, I just narrowly avoided getting shot by an NSA officer by:

a) Not getting drunk
b) Not stealing a car
c) Not running down an NSA gate.

It was a close call, though. Maybe you'll see it in the news.
 

joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
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I just realized, though, that those NSA officers are going to require sensitivity training. They are obviously bigoted toward drunk, car-thieving, transgendered people.

"Hands up! Don't shoot!"
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
17,496
Maybe death by cop;
I think you meant suicide by cop? That was my thought.

We're in crazy-world now, where the militant gay agenda is crammed down our...errr...throats while at the same time we are expected to have only sympathy for their deviant behavior, whether it's the gay-porn-surfing, mass murderer German pilot or these two knuckleheads. Good grief. :confused:
 
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