That would affect multiple houses? The last explosion might have been a single house, but I heard on the news about an instance where 5 houses were involved.

What I know is based on reporters contacting experts in the area who have more insight into the problem. The info on the number of capped wells came directly from the governor of the state.

What I had heard and read was that the one house exploded and that damaged and caught the neighboring houses on each side on fire. I haven't seen anything that said that five houses were involved. We the other two houses far enough away that the house that exploded could not have been the cause of whatever damage they sustained?

 

I thought when a house explodes, it was a meth lab until proven otherwise in a court of public opinion. But maybe that's regional.

I don't immediately go there -- I never even thought of that until you just mentioned it. Are meth lab explosions as energetic as that one? I don't know. I would imagine, however, that there should be enough residual chemical signatures to pretty conclusively rule that in or out.

 

Are meth lab explosions as energetic as that one? I don't know.

I've never seen aftermath like this from a meth lab explosion. But I've never seen aftermath like this from a leaky gas line either. I am not an expert in either kind of explosion though.

A friend of mine bought a several acre property for cheap but it is not a great piece of land. It is "waterfront" property, meaning it's on a bayou and floods regularly. All neighboring houses are on stilts and still flood, and are occupied by questionable individuals. hence the price. He found on his new property a shipping container that was on its side, floor blown out, and the metal sides and roof expanded outward. It looks like it was on its way to being hydroformed in a sphere before it blew out.

Neighbors said the previous owner was cooking meth in there and it blew up while he was not present. Just a rumor but a pretty plausible one. I have a feeling that if whatever happened to that house, happened to a shipping container, the shipping container would be nothing but shrapnel.

 

It was certainly a very big explosion. Like you, I don't have expertise in this area, so any speculations are weakly based. I was always under the impression that gas explosions tended to be primarily outward and less upward, whereas this one seemed like the opposite. I'm pretty sure they will quickly establish what kind of explosion it was, if not the exact source. When they will make that information public is a different matter.

 

What I had heard and read was that the one house exploded and that damaged and caught the neighboring houses on each side on fire. I haven't seen anything that said that five houses were involved. We the other two houses far enough away that the house that exploded could not have been the cause of whatever damage they sustained?

It appears that they've ruled out the 2 abandoned wells that are still producing gas and were within 1000 feet of the house, and the pipeline that runs behind the development. But they're still inspecting other abandoned wells in the area and also looking for unregistered wells. The homeowner was having problems with their water heater, so that's also being considered as a potential cause.

https://www.pennlive.com/news/2023/...-in-pa-house-explosion-investigation-dep.html

 

I have my own thoughts on why they wer all in the basement. But if I was to post it it would get deleted. All I'll say is you have to look at the area and who they support.

 

What I know is based on reporters contacting experts in the area who have more insight into the problem. The info on the number of capped wells came directly from the governor of the state.

From what I can find, the uncapped wells are not really gas wells, but oil wells from the 1800's to early 1900's. They are un capped because when they stopped producing they just removed the pump head and walked away, there was no law to make them cap it and no valve on it. Gas wells or at least newer ones have a valve on them at ground level, with the out let piping after the big valve. That valve doesn't have it's hand wheel left on it so it can't be messed with. The well owner, if they shut it down, comes in and turns the valve off and removes the hand wheel when they leave.

 

From what I can find, the uncapped wells are not really gas wells, but oil wells from the 1800's to early 1900's. They are un capped because when they stopped producing they just removed the pump head and walked away, there was no law to make them cap it and no valve on it.

The article I referenced said the two abandoned wells within 1000 feet of the house were still producing gas, but were ruled out as the cause of the explosion. They haven't ruled out others in the area.

Gas wells or at least newer ones have a valve on them at ground level, with the out let piping after the big valve.

Some of the wells in question date back to the 1800's when there were fewer regulations. In one news story I saw, there was a homeowner who paid $20K to deal with an abandoned well on his land that had contaminated his well. The same story had an environmental quality expert measuring arsenic contamination in a stream. Upstream of the methane leak, the water was okay. Below, it had 2X the arsenic level allowed in drinking water. Microbes eat the methane and produce arsenic.

 

I have my own thoughts on why they wer all in the basement. But if I was to post it it would get deleted. All I'll say is you have to look at the area and who they support.

Ok now I'm my curiosity is piqued as to what conspiracy theory is coloring your input on this. At first I thought it was "natural gas seeped into the house from irresponsible oil companies who are paying to keep this from going national." But the repeat emphasis on the family being in the basement doesn't fit.

 

My guess is they were in the basement to investigate the gas they were smelling.

 

My guess is they were in the basement to investigate the gas they were smelling.

and all you would need is the tiniest spark from maybe a light switch turning on if the fuel-air mixture was right.

If you suspect or smell a gas leak, leave ASAP and call the emergency services.

 

If you suspect or smell a gas leak, leave ASAP and call the emergency services.

Unless you are attempting suicide. Come to think if it, with 5 family members in the basement, a murder suicide plot comes to mind.

 

Time to call Grissom and his CSI team ...

 

Ok now I'm my curiosity is piqued as to what conspiracy theory is coloring your input on this.

Ever hear of the"Anarchist Cookbook"? Or maga

 

But the repeat emphasis on the family being in the basement doesn't fit.

Of the 5 people only one adult and his son lived there, the other 3 were visitors/helpers.

 

Ever hear of the"Anarchist Cookbook"? Or maga

Of course...

If that was supposed to illuminate anything, it didn't work. That may be more my fault than yours though.

 

Of the 5 people only one adult and his son lived there, the other 3 were visitors/helpers.

So they were cult members intending to maga some political target with a DIY explosive but failed?

 

Ever hear of the"Anarchist Cookbook"? Or maga

MOD NOTE: Stop trying to steer the conversation to politics.

 

MOD NOTE: Stop trying to steer the conversation to politics.

That's my bad, I was asking. I will stop.

 

Another gas explosion.
https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-ne...million-dollar-north-carolina-home-to-rubble/

MOORESVILLE, N.C. (WJZY) – An explosion overnight leveled a multimillion-dollar home in North Carolina owned by NFL cornerback Caleb Farley, leaving his father dead and another person injured, authorities said.

Authorities confirmed with Nexstar’s WJZY that the person who was killed has been identified as Robert Matthews Farley, 61, who was staying in the home at the time of the incident.