"perpetual motion"

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wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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Eliminating the balls would help this spin longer, as already noted. But the OP said they wanted to remove electrical energy to be stored for a later "boost". Any attempt to do that will be like applying a brake and will stop it dead quite quickly. I'm assuming reasonable mass and speeds (and therefore rotational energy) and a practical amount of power removed to store a battery.

Since storage and retrieval of energy from a battery is ~50% efficient, you'll get more "motion" by NOT involving electricity.

Just use a lot of weight at the perimeter, balance it really well, and use the best technology you can afford for the bearings. Spin it in a vacuum to eliminate air resistance.

BTW, I'm expecting Santa here any moment. NORAD says he's approaching Quito, Ecuador as I write this.
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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Although the OP did state that he knew it was impossible, it would have been nice if he had given some indication of why he wanted to build something that he knew wouldn't work. For instance, if he had said that he was making an exhibit that contained "working" examples of some common perpetual motion machines that people could get going and then watch as they ran down and that he wanted to make a good faith effort to make the devices as correct as possible, then I imagine he would have gotten a lot less sarcasm and a lot more serious thought and suggestions.
 

atferrari

Joined Jan 6, 2004
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I would never say such a thing on Christmas eve!
Maybe you heard this before: they say that in the Christmas eve, in our neighborhood, a father who was short of money, climbed the roof armed with a pistol and shot twice. Then he came down and told the children that Santa had committed suicide, so there would be no presents for this year! :eek:

A little bit more seriously, it is hard to imagine Santa around here where we are having consistently 38ºC in the last six days. Clear skies all the time. :(

Just in case: 38ºC = 100,5ºF = 311ºK = 560ºR

Feliz Navidad.
 

GetDeviceInfo

Joined Jun 7, 2009
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I'd like to thank the Mods for allowing this thread to continue (or for being so medicated that they do not notice).

In any case, nobody is getting hurt or scammed and nobody is talking about an IPO (yet). Lots of learning does seem to be happening though. I am just waiting for the ah ha moment (or the ha ha moment). Let it roll!
a single post from a new poster, followed by 3 pages of regulars. When and from who do you expect an 'ah ha'.
 

#12

Joined Nov 30, 2010
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A little bit more seriously, it is hard to imagine Santa around here where we are having consistently 38ºC in the last six days.
Feliz Navidad.
Oh yeah, you're on the other side of the equator from most of us. You are dripping sweat while I frolic in the joy of a sub-tropical winter. I'd say I'm sorry, but I'm too busy having fun!

Happy Christmas!
 

strantor

Joined Oct 3, 2010
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Well, since this thread has somehow landed in some sort of free energy no-kill-zone, I'll go ahead and tell you all that I haven't paid a utility bill since 2011. In my spare bedroom I have a large fan blowing through a "Strantor Passive Wind Accelerator" into a wind generator, which in turn powers the fan along with my house, the well pump, and actually supplants my A/C by blowing into the ducts. The function of the Strantor Passive Wind Accelerator can be explained by the Strantor Principle, which works in collusion with the Bernoulli Principle, Venturi Effect, Boyles Law, and Alka Seltzer. But there's not enough time to explain here, and I've already said too much. If you'd like to learn more about the Strantor Principle, all the information is on my informative DVD, along with full plans for Strantor Passive Wind Accelerator. PM me, and I'll send you a copy for $59.99 + shipping - The best investment you'll ever make! P.S. I keep no records of who I've sold DVDs to, so no worries about the government knocking down your door once they realize that the key to free energy has been let loose.
 

#12

Joined Nov 30, 2010
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Yeah...and I don't have to work because I'm the owner of the "Shakewell" copyright. Every jar, bottle, and can that says, "Shake well before using" sends me a penny each.:p
 

THE_RB

Joined Feb 11, 2008
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Darn! I thought I was ahread of the curve with my 3,000 glow in the dark keyrings, glued to a solar panel and all encased in a metal box with "nuclear reactor" stickers on it;

 

Georacer

Joined Nov 25, 2009
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Sooo, I guess I should close the thread? Nah, people are having fun and I'm feeling festive.

But, to be clear towards the OP, the topic of perpetual motion is a banned one here in AAC. It is related with scams all over the internet intending to make a quick buck. It is a sore topic so we do not allow it around here. In short, don't expect members to serve your question.
 

#12

Joined Nov 30, 2010
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I suspect several of us were feeling a bit festive. Christmas eve, a little egg nog, and flights of fancy escape into an otherwise austere world.

Thanks for relocating this appropriately.
 

loosewire

Joined Apr 25, 2008
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@ 12 , how does it feel to copyright stuff ,I don't feel like a lost cause now.

Loosewire Motion ,having a Loosewire with energy floating around it ,always

active ,U-tomic a copyrighted word.
 

Metalmann

Joined Dec 8, 2012
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I have the real Tesla in a cage in my basement.

For $999.99, I'll let you have a sneak peek, but only if you order before midnight.
 
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