Nodal analysis problem

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ewr

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How do you find v and i in this circuit using nodal analysis? Can you please show the steps?

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WBahn

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How do you find v and i in this circuit using nodal analysis? Can you please show the steps?

Thank you.
No, we can't, because we don't work your homework for you.

Show YOUR best attempt to follow the steps as you have been shown them as best you can. That gives us a starting point for a discussion.
 

WBahn

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But I'll walk you through an ad-hoc (i.e., NOT nodal analysis) approach that can let you narrow the possible answers down.

Pick a value for the current i. The first step is to ask what kinds of currents might be reasonable. 1 mA, 1 A, or 1000 A? Given the size of the voltage sources and the resistance, I'd estimate that the final current will be more than 1 A and less than 10 A. So let's pick 3 A. I did that to make the voltage across the 2 Ω resistor 6 A, which then makes it easy to get the current in the 6 Ω resistor, namely 1 A. The means that the 6 V source has 4 A flowing in it and since the positive terminal is at 6 V, the negative terminal must be a 0 V, which means the 3 Ω resistor has no voltage across it and, hence, no current flowing through it. That means that the entire 4 A is flowing left-to-right in the 4 Ω resistor, which puts the voltage at the top of the 14 V supply at 16 V. While this is too high, it's actually fairly close, which suggests (doesn't prove) that the initial guess of 3 A for i probably isn't too far off.

But is it high or low? Let's see if we can reason it out. Let's say that the actual current is more than 3 A. That means that the voltage on the positive node is higher than 6 V which means that the voltage on the 3 Ω resistor will be positive and some current will also be going down that direction. But that means that the current going through the 4 Ω resistor will be higher since not only is the current in the 6 V source more, but now the 4 Ω resistor must also feed the 3 Ω resistor. The end result would be an even higher voltage at the top of the 14 V source, and we are already too high. So the actual current will be less than 3 A.

Now it's your turn. Let's say we pick i to be 2 A. See if you can reason out whether this is still too high or if it is too low. If it's too low, then you have a range for your final answer that you know it must fall within. That is a BIG help in verifying that you've gotten the correct answer.

Another way to ensure you turn in the correct answer is to analysis the circuit using a different technique, such as mesh or superposition. If the answers don't agree, then you know at least one of them is wrong. So either review your work or use a third method as a tie breaker.

Oh, and by the way, I suspect you are supposed to use the supernode technique if you are supposed to use nodal analysis.
 
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