Need some guidance making a power supply

SgtWookie

Joined Jul 17, 2007
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Boy that post was full of grammatical mistakes. That's what I get for attempting to post from my tablet. But yes, watt = volts, and Are = or.
Stuff happens. ;)

So the resistance of the entire circuit would allow me to control the voltage and amperage?
The voltage is fixed by the regulators. The current is set by the load, up to the limit of the supply.

Would a pot affectively allow me to control it on the fly then?
A pot by itself would not be suitable; it would dissipate far too much power and be destroyed. A power rheostat would work, but would be heavy, expensive and inefficient.

A PWM circuit could control the average current through the load by cycling the power through the heating element(s) on and off. For the greatest ease of building the circuit, the load should be configured in a manner so that it dissipates the maximum power desired when the duty cycle of the PWM is 100% (on full time).
What gauge wire would you recommend I could safely use for this circuit? On hand I have both stranded and solid in various sizes from 12awg to 30awg.
Copper wire has a very low resistance. In order to be used as a heating element, it would require a very long length of wire; and copper is mighty expensive nowadays.

Nichrome wire is frequently used as a heating element. It's pretty much impossible to solder, so you either have to weld the ends to something, or use screw-type or crimp-type connectors. It's available in various resistances, usually based on the wire gauge but alloy also figures in, and has a specific resistance per inch, foot, yard, meter, or however it is specified by the manufacturer.

You first need to figure out what is the size of the area you are going to heat, then how are you going to route the wiring, then calculate the length of the wire that it will take to complete the route, and then obtain Nichrome that is a suitable resistance for that length.

Here is an example of what you might find available:
http://jacobs-online.biz/nichrome_wire.htm
This is not an endorsement of the supplier; simply a convenient example. Note that you do NOT want to order Nichrome wire wound on a card!! It will be a tangled mess when you try to do anything with it.

You will be better off to use more parallel "strings" with smaller gauge wire than fewer strings of larger gauge wire. It will help you to use a spreadsheet to calculate the resistances vs length needed. If you don't have a spreadsheet program, you can download OpenOffice, Star Office, or use Google's online spreadsheet that you can access when you register for a free Gmail account.

What if I just had one load? Wouldn't that take the full 12v?

Or are you suggestion the PSU has a 1.5v rail on it?
The PSUs I linked to are only 12v. They do not have any other voltages available.

To draw 29 Watts from 12 volts, you would need a load that measured 2.41666... Ohms, or two 4.8333... Ohm loads in parallel, or three 7.25 Ohm loads in parallel, or four 9.667 ohm loads in parallel, or....

See?
 

bountyhunter

Joined Sep 7, 2009
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I can't really delve into specifics, but it's for a heating element that remains close to your body. I need it to be low voltage due to not wanting to get shocked lol.
Anything below about 50V has no shock hazard. You are really making life tough going high current at such a low voltage because power supply efficiency will be terrible. That's because the voltage drops on the transistors and diodes are nearly the value of the regulated output so you will burn a ton of power internally.

If you are sure you need this, I would advise emulating the types of synchronous rectifier buck converters used in PCs to generate the high current internal rails and bus voltages.
 

t06afre

Joined May 11, 2009
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Will you be using this on real patients. Because then the setup must comply with medical safety regulations. Like you can not just use any power supply. It must be a medical grade one.
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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Will you be using this on real patients. Because then the setup must comply with medical safety regulations. Like you can not just use any power supply. It must be a medical grade one.
But what about space heaters, electric blankets and heating pads? I don't know where the line gets drawn, but I don't think applying heat to a person without contact doesn't require...anything. I don't need a prescription to sit next to my neighbor's fireplace.
 

t06afre

Joined May 11, 2009
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This is the definition of a patient in IEC 60601-1, or UL60601
Living person undergoing medical or dental investigation or treatment. The person under treatment for cosmetic purposes may be considered, as far as this standard is concerned, as a patient.​
And This for Medical electrical equipment
Electrical equipment, provided with not more than one connection to a particular supply mains and intended to diagnose, treat or monitor the patient under medical supervision and which:
  • Make physical or electrical contact with the patient; and/or
  • Transfer energy to or from the patient; and/or
  • Detect such energy transfer to or from the patient.
The equipment includes those accessories defined by the manufacturer as being necessary to enable the normal use of the equipment.

And heat is indeed energy. Just saying this to help. So you do not start a big project. In order to get a paper accepted many medical journals have now as requirement. That safety regulations are followed. As one example.​
 
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