Right now the minimum wage is 7.50 per hour in the US. If your wage was 10 times the minimum wage and your earnings for the company was as 12 times the minimum wage, if we doubled the minimum wage, do you deserve a pay increase to 150 per hour? How does that affect the customer numbers?

 

It cannot be both "right" and minimum dictated by fiat at the same time. The right price is one acceptable to the parties on both sides of a transaction.

A high minimum wage ensures that many people trying to enter the job market, can't. With no track record and no experience, first-time workers simply aren't worth the minimum wage.

Of workers paid on an hourly basis, about 1 in 20 earn minimum wage or less (95% earn more than minimum wage). Do you really think the minimum wage prevents young people from getting a job? Anyone with any level of awareness and can follow directions is capable of negotiating a starting salary at or above minimum wage. If that is not possible, time to move to a different city in the US with more opportunities because Now Hiring signs are up in many places - travel around and you will see them.

If you know a young person that cannot negotiate a $7.50 to $8/hr wage where they live, send them to the Pittsburgh suburbs. Cooks, dishwashers, lawn care, fast food, retail, manufacturing (paying $15/hr - no union, full time), send them over.

 

Right now the minimum wage is 7.50 per hour in the US. If your wage was 10 times the minimum wage and your earnings for the company was as 12 times the minimum wage, if we doubled the minimum wage, do you deserve a pay increase to 150 per hour?

No. Salaries and wages above minimum wage are not "deserved", they are negotiated. Market forces (supply/demand, cost/benefit) determine those wages and salaries.

Would you feel that you DESERVE such a pay raise if minimum wages are increased?

 

We all have done this before, me included, let's keep this on muscle cars, gentlemen.

Sorry, ladies included too.

Sorry again, others included too too.

 

trace- that neighbor of mine that bought the goat was very disappointed. He kept getting shut down at all the lights. In front of all the girls.

Pulled that brand new 389 out....bought an old gm 348 big block. Bored paper thin. 427 heads. All the goodies and two big 4bls.

He was very satisfied. Great improvement. After about a year, he put the 389 back in.

Couldn't take the idling. I'll bet he wore out 4 shocks a month, from the idle.

Like setting inside a washing machine.

 

trace- that neighbor of mine that bought the goat was very disappointed. He kept getting shut down at all the lights. In front of all the girls.

Pulled that brand new 389 out....bought an old gm 348 big block. Bored paper thin. 427 heads. All the goodies and two big 4bls.

He was very satisfied. Great improvement. After about a year, he put the 389 back in.

Couldn't take the idling. I'll bet he wore out 4 shocks a month, from the idle.

Like setting inside a washing machine.

Interesting. I bought a 401 ci Buick Gran Sport, put dual 4bbl carbs, and 10 inch slicks on it...still couldn't beat the GTO I mentioned.

 

Meh. Whatever.
If it can't pull at least twice it's own weight at interstate speeds for a 1000 miles non-stop I have no need for it.

 

We were working midnight shift stocking grocery shelves. Everyone had muscle cars, cept one guy.

He had an old broken down rambler, 6 cyl. 3 on the column.

We usually got off at about 5 in the morning. The store set in a bowl, with the parking lot all around.

Everyone left a few hundred miles of rubber in that big empty lot when we left work.

We come out one morning and there was about an inch of snow on the lot.

The rambler was the only car that could get out of the lot. Funny as hell.

Only after he yo-yoed a path, could the others get out.

 

We were working midnight shift stocking grocery shelves. Everyone had muscle cars, cept one guy.

He had an old broken down rambler, 6 cyl. 3 on the column.

Had a 63 Rambler Ambassador sedan with the AMC 327 during my Navy training days. Built like a tank and just as heavy but she could rumble. Not the fastest car on the block but it was mighty nice to have those big wide bench seats in the back after a beach party in San Diego.

 

I dated a girl in high school that had a Rambler sedan. The front seats reclined all the way flat to the back seat making a bed. I drove some cool stuff back in the day but nothing so 'practical' as the Rambler.

 

Had a 63 Rambler Ambassador sedan with the AMC 327 during my Navy training days. Built like a tank and just as heavy but she could rumble. Not the fastest car on the block but it was mighty nice to have those big wide bench seats in the back after a beach party in San Diego.

Is the blue car next to the rambler a Gremlin?

 

I dated a girl in high school that had a Rambler sedan. The front seats reclined all the way flat to the back seat making a bed. I drove some cool stuff back in the day but nothing so 'practical' as the Rambler.

The Nash also had the 'snooze' option "for traveling salesman".
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Is the blue car next to the rambler a Gremlin?

No idea as that's not a picture of my car, the rear seat in mine was slightly worn.

 

The Nash also had the 'snooze' option "for traveling salesman".
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Snooze described when you stepped on the accelerator, not when the seats were reclined....

 

10-4 on the 25 cents a gallon. And a 6 dollar natural gas bill. Our highest utility bill was the phone bill, and that's only cause it was a private line.

People forget what a good economy is. All teenagers had part time jobs. Pumping gas, bagging groceries, I worked part time in a factory after school. And could afford car payments. If I remember right, my first NEW car payment was a little less than $40 and that included insurance. The biggest problem was talking parents into co-signing for loans and titles.

Can a teenager legally get a job anymore? If there was one. Or is it too risky now for an employer?

I don't see kids workin in stores now, just old geezers like me.

Despite all the pious rhetoric about kids "Not wanting to work", it's not their fault.

Here in San Francisco, employers (stores, fast food, and restaurants) want full time/year round adults (not teenagers out of school for the summer). In addition, they hire "illegals" who get paid under the table and don't pay income taxes. There are also foreigners on visas that allow them to work without legally paying social security.

Even if kids wanted to work, all these factors place them at a disadvantage over foreigners. It's going to get even worse when "Partnership For A New American Economy" kicks in full force. It's a plan to use mass immigration to replace every damned last native worker with foreigners on H1B visas.

 

They will probably delete that. They deleted mine. That's ok though, I didn't want it to turn political.

Have to learn to bite my tongue. Viva le Revolutione!

I never thought that I would be saying that. You can tell I've been in a lot of revolutions by my spelling, I'm sure.

 

Despite all the pious rhetoric about kids "Not wanting to work", it's not their fault.

Here in San Francisco, employers (stores, fast food, and restaurants) want full time/year round adults (not teenagers out of school for the summer). In addition, they hire "illegals" who get paid under the table and don't pay income taxes. There are also foreigners on visas that allow them to work without legally paying social security.

Even if kids wanted to work, all these factors place them at a disadvantage over foreigners. It's going to get even worse when "Partnership For A New American Economy" kicks in full force. It's a plan to use mass immigration to replace every damned last native worker with foreigners on H1B visas.

Interesting viewpoints but open your own thread if you want to rant about that dead issue. The OP asked us to keep thus one on muscle cars.

 

Not just muscle cars...............sorry................any old car story will do. Muscle was just bait. ha ha

 

I had a 51 Buick, I hesitate to say special. It had two big headlights, huge front grill, and sloped back.

It had a straight eight engine that purred like a kitten as it propelled close to 5000 lbs. around.

Had the wonderbar on the vibrator driven am radio.

Great driving car and good on snow.

Special Eight I believe it was called.

http://www.allcollectorcars.com/for-sale/1951-Buick-Special-Eight/1809370/

 

I had a 51 Buick,

My grandfather had a Buick Roadmaster. I got my first scar from an electrical spark under its dashboard.
It's hard to believe I was crawling under the dash of a car at about 8 years old trying to figure out how it worked!
I still have the scar. A little divot just to the right of my upper lip.

That car was good on the washboard roads of Kentucky. The trick was to find the right speed for the wheels to be coming down hard just as they came to the top of the next ripple in the road. Somewhere around 55 miles an hour and the road would seem to smooth out. Of course, you were floating the suspension, and floating the car from bump to bump. As long as you could keep it in the middle of the road you could sustain that posture for miles. Then another car would come along and you had to slow down and get to the right until it passed. I wonder how long the shocks lasted under that kind of punishment! Probably a few weeks.

My grandmother never had a drivers license, and the local sheriff/moonshiner knew not to mess with her.
That would be bad for business, not to mention what would happen when granny told his mother.

Nostalgia.
I haven't thought about coming out from under that dashboard for 50 years.