Mozilla thunderbird receive date 1-1-1970

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Picbuster

Joined Dec 2, 2013
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I do receive many E-mails with a correct date stamp.
However E-mails from one source will be dated 1-1-1970.
The first idea was sender faulty!!
A other PC with outlook was used and no problems with the date stamp. ( I left the E-mail at provider and received it in outlook).

The question is: whom is generating the receive date stamp?

Picbuster
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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That's the date that UNIX times start, so a zero or missing time may be getting translated to that date. It's hard to know just where that translation is occurring. It could be at your machine or it may be intentional by the sender for some nefarious purpose.
 
A look at the header may provide some clues. In Outlook, when you have opened the email such that it is in the reading pane, go File->properties to display the headers. Scroll through them and you will see the date several times. The first in the list is the last hop and the last in the list is the initiator. See where the bad date first appears. Could be intentional could be accidental - could be something else.
 

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Picbuster

Joined Dec 2, 2013
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Thank you for the reply.
I did found an error in de data date stream but I like to know where this date is generated at sender, provider or somewhere else.
( month is gone ==>> in header after subject:nnnnn Date: Mon, 13 Fri 2017 10:02:49 +0200 .)
It looks like that Mozilla is using an other time stamp than Outlook.
(received block is correct
Delivery-date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 10:02:51 +0200
for xxxxxxx.com ; Fri, 13 Oct 2017 10:02:51 +0200
)

Whom is guilty?

Picbuster
 
Thank you for the reply.
I did found an error in de data date stream but I like to know where this date is generated at sender, provider or somewhere else.
( month is gone ==>> in header after subject:nnnnn Date: Mon, 13 Fri 2017 10:02:49 +0200 .)
It looks like that Mozilla is using an other time stamp than Outlook.
(received block is correct
Delivery-date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 10:02:51 +0200
for xxxxxxx.com ; Fri, 13 Oct 2017 10:02:51 +0200
)

Whom is guilty?

Picbuster
In general, each server that is handling your email will add an entry to the header with a timestamp.

Reading the header from the bottom up, the entry first containing the bad info is, potentially, the culprit. That entry should have an IP address associated with it that you can look up.

The caveat is that those entries can be made inaccurate (or stripped away completey) by more than one source, so a definitive answer is difficult.

It sounds like someone's mail handler/server is not configured properly.

Here is a link on headers that you may want to check out.
 

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Picbuster

Joined Dec 2, 2013
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Thanks Raymond useful information
I do think that outlook is using delivery date and Mozilla is using the date as stated after subject in front of the message.
I will contact the Mozilla group and hear what they have to say about it.

Picbuster
 
Yeah, the "ghost" email is a known issue - see here for Mozilla , but they are not alone, see here.

"I do think that outlook is using delivery date and Mozilla is using the date as stated after subject in front of the message".- you are not alone in that belief - see here
 

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Picbuster

Joined Dec 2, 2013
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How miserable can life be ?
I am full convinced that delivery date should the correct one stamped at inbox 'front door' and not the senders date.
Away I will try to drop a request to Mozilla. ( drop will work but the modification?)
Picbuster
 
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