It's a business expense. Buy the best and depreciate.

Around here if you are expected to be outside companies supply the proper gear for you or give you full reimbursement towards buying the gear they recomend.

I haven't had a job here were I worked outside for any amount of time that it wasn't standard operating procedure.

 

Dan Pizano I say heated clothing is a bad idea cuz it's like HP says in post 32 you can basically cook your tissues w/o knowing it! It happens a lot to ppl who sleep under heat lamps and like that!

Then there's the opposite end where you are dependant on the heater system and it breaks down leaving you with totally inadequate thermal protection from the cold.

 

I reserve the right to reach my own conclusions. I just can't sue anybody for my own thought processes.

Congratulations! I can but hope (and, indeed, expect) that most members hold similar views! -- That said -quite apart from liability- there are definite ethical issues... Granted! I very much doubt @BR-549 (nor anyone else here) is going to disregard his attending physician's recommendations based upon what 'some chick' (having no knowledge whatever of his medical history) 'posted on the internet' Still.... one worries!

Very best regards
HP

 

It is true that I am in poor health. However, I have never been more happy and content in my life.

I will not surrender this to a doctor.

And thanks Aleph(0) for the heads up on the kidneys.......I've been searching for asbestos pajamas.

 

I will not surrender this to a doctor.

I think I have refused 12 offers of treatment in the last 3 years, from full functioning physicians in their office. With that amount of over-diagnosing and over-treating, I tend to think some stranger on the internet telling me about the hazards of personal heating devices is more credible than what I've seen in a doctor's office lately.

Check this out: A tooth cleaner tells me to open my mouth, then she leaves. She comes back 5 minutes later and says, "Oh! It's dry in there." (No shit, Sherlock.) A year later, I find out she diagnosed a medical condition called, "dry mouth" when the real condition was, "stupid dental hygienist". She also tried to sell me a medical cure for purple tongue caused by grape soda pop. This kind of thing is rampant because it causes cash flow. Your best defense is your own brain!

 

It is true that I am in poor health. However, I have never been more happy and content in my life.

I will not surrender this to a doctor.

Please understand - It is neither my intent nor desire to tell anybody how to live their lives! - I'm merely stating that my contributions to this site are offered strictly as opinion -- as opposed to professional advice!
@Aleph(0) - I took the liberty of including you in said 'disclaimer' only because same centered about my response to your post

Check this out: A tooth cleaner tells me to open my mouth, then she leaves. She comes back 5 minutes later and says, "Oh! It's dry in there." (No shit, Sherlock.) A year later, I find out she diagnosed a medical condition called, "dry mouth" when the real condition was, "stupid dental hygienist".

What did you expect from a dental practice? --- There's a reason dentists and their assis... Ahem... 'familiars' are (traditionally) 'untitled' in the UK!

Best regards
HP

 

I wooda told you a doctor story, but they're longer.

For instance, I recently found out I have asthma, peripheral artery disease, and needed an 8 lead EKG to diagnose a skin rash, none of which I believe.

 

When I die, I'm gonna have a chat with Dog about this.

Psssst! #12 Your ecclesiastical dyslexia is showing!

 

While I assert that rhabdomyolysis (and, hence, myoglobinemia) is far less of an issue with superficial --as opposed to deep and, especially, electrical-- burns/injuries

HP Tnx cuz I can always count on you to dot my Is and cross my Ts

 

Then there's the opposite end where you are dependant on the heater system and it breaks down leaving you with totally inadequate thermal protection from the cold.

Tcmtech I know what you mean but I say it's like HP says that if air is warm enough to be gaseous you can always dress for it! so that's down to like -180°C

 

I wooda told you a doctor story, but they're longer.

For instance, I recently found out I have asthma, peripheral artery disease, and needed an 8 lead EKG to diagnose a skin rash, none of which I believe.

#12 I was born too late for Protect and Survive and Duck And Cover and all that but worrying abt HP's reaction to your post just puts me on DEFCON 1! Cuz she's just gonna give sermon on how a few rotten apples don't spoil all of them which is her mantra on that subject!

 

Psssst! #12 Your ecclesiastical dyslexia is showing!

Just trying not to discuss religion on this website.

a few rotten apples don't spoil all of them

I know that, but I'm spoiled. I had a good doctor for 20 years, the kind of doctor that reduced the number of days per year I can't walk by 90% and titrated my medications for optimum performance! Now, the only treatment I can get around here is an ace inhibitor and a statin, and they keep trying to change the brand of statin to save the insurance company a dollar while I go into intractable muscle spasms for weeks in a row. When they aren't screwing with my tried and proven medications or trying to do ever more expensive and invasive diagnostics based on, "no symptoms and no complaints", they are prescribing opiates and gathering evidence to be used against me in a court of law.

Forget that! I generally change doctors, get a year worth of refills for the absolute minimum legal level of care in the first or second office visit, then ignore them until next year. If they can't get me in the office, they can't use me for a cash cow.

 

Tcmtech I know what you mean but I say it's like HP says that if air is warm enough to be gaseous you can always dress for it! so that's down to like -180°C

Yep. Been outside when propane wouldn't turn to gas a few times though. I could turn a 20# cylinder upside down with the valve open and would just run out as a fizzy liquid.

That's where I draw the line for cold without a wind chill. Anything colder than that you don't need to be out in unless it's life or death related situations.

 

Been outside when propane wouldn't turn to gas a few times though.

That'd be about negative 44°(F) -- Business as usual 'round here too (i.e. several occurrences of -50 or lower in any three to five year period).

you don't need to be out in unless it's life or death related situations.

Actually, It's excellent xc skiing weather! At ambient temps < negative 45°(F), 'frictionally' heated snow does not fuse - but, rather, sublimes with the result that, once well underway, one veritably 'floats' sans ice-up!

I know that, but I'm spoiled. I had a good doctor for 20 years, the kind of doctor that reduced the number of days per year I can't walk by 90% and titrated my medications for optimum performance! Now, the only treatment I can get around here is an ace inhibitor and a statin, and they keep trying to change the brand of statin to save the insurance company a dollar while I go into intractable muscle spasms for weeks in a row. When they aren't screwing with my tried and proven medications or trying to do ever more expensive and invasive diagnostics based on, "no symptoms and no complaints", they are prescribing opiates and gathering evidence to be used against me in a court of law.

Forget that! I generally change doctors, get a year worth of refills for the absolute minimum legal level of care in the first or second office visit, then ignore them until next year. If they can't get me in the office, they can't use me for a cash cow.

Hey @#12 -- I'm truly sorry for your bad experience! While no excuse, I ask you to please consider the observation that while (IMNSHO) many hospitals, clinics and insurance interests are indeed pure evil -- I assert that many (I would say most) health care professionals are both dedicated and compassionate -- sadly they're little more than 'pawns' themselves

As an aside: While I'm anything but a liberal -- I nonetheless strongly feel that quality healthcare is a fundamental human right -- The 'trick' is in the implementation of a paradigm preclusive of 'mission creep' toward 'rationing' and/or similar manifestations of fascism...

Best regards
HP

 

#12 I was born too late for Protect and Survive and Duck And Cover and all that but worrying abt HP's reaction to your post just puts me on DEFCON 1! Cuz she's just gonna give sermon on how a few rotten apples don't spoil all of them which is her mantra on that subject!

Hey @Aleph(0)? -- Howz about you knock back another five fingers of Old Grand-Dad's and call it an early night?!

Tolerantly
HP

 

they're little more than 'pawns'

I know that too. Today's doctors are squeezed between thousands of regulations about what they can and (mostly) cannot do to treat a person, and greedy insurance companies. The primary result is that it's simply more efficient at causing cash flow to create imaginary diagnostic codes while spending zero time treating the patient. I have a portfolio of imaginary diseases, but nobody treats them, or any of the real problems. They just generate paperwork which causes cash to arrive from the insurance company.

I could complain that the last x number of doctors I have seen have sold their souls and abdicated their profession, but complaining can't make a doctor want to risk what will rain down on one who spends their time actually doctoring.

 

You may want to just look at "heated motorcycle gear" using Google. Note the power requirements and find a suitable battery. Additionally something else to consider is hunting chemical heating pads. A Google will bring up plenty. I used them years ago and a single chest pad would keep me warm all day (8 hours or more) in freezing temperatures.

Ron

 

Actually, It's excellent xc skiing weather! At ambient temps < negative 45°(F), 'frictionally' heated snow does not fuse - but, rather, sublimes with the result that, once well underway, one veritably 'floats' sans ice-up!

HP I say your endothermic Valhalla awaits! And also if you're not careful it can be closer at hand than you think!

HP being serious you're the only lithe person I know that can stand really cold temps and totally prefers them! So I can stop short of saying you're weird but like you're always saying abt me _the fact remains_

 

I didn't realize that snow squeaks til I moved out west.

 

I didn't realize that snow squeaks til I moved out west.

Dry powder much more than the wet mess of the east coast.