Hi all,
First post on here, so go easy. I've tried to find what I'm looking for, but am not 100% satisfied just yet.
Generally, what I'm looking to do is have several (50+) low power laser diodes (labeled as 5mW, with output more like ~3-4mW as I understand it for diodes of this type) powered from the same voltage source. I know this is typically an issue as they will not have the same characterisitics, and without limiting the current bad things happen to your diodes and they die off one by one - This, I'd like to avoid. A continuous current source driver appears to be the most common method of protecting the diodes, but I've only really seen them for one diode at a time. I simply do not want to buy/make that many true "drivers," and wasn't really interested in purchasing the lasers as completed modules (i.e. complete with a brass case/heatsink and quasi current limiting circuit) as the cost goes up considereably for the overall project, and most of the modules out there are just huge. The diode I'm looking at is an NEC NDL3210, which on the datasheet is rated at 6mW, but all of the values correspond to 5mW output.
The TYPICAL diode operating characteristics at 5mW, electrically speaking, are as follows:
Operating voltage: 2.2V
Max Operating VOltage: 2.5V
Threshold Current: 40mA
Max Threshold Current: 60mA
Operating Current: 50mA
Max Operating Current: 70mA
Monitor Current: .5mA (not even sure what this is, or if it is something I can even control as the diode is essentially a 2 terminal device excluding case)
Then, there are some ratings that don't make sense to me such as:
Reverse Voltage: 2.0V
Reverse Voltage: 30V
Forward Current: 20mA
I understand what reverse voltage is, but why do they have it listed twice and why are they soooo different in magnitude?
Now that you have the background I'll tell you where I'm stumped. I was using the Circuit Simulator Java Applet found on Falstad dot com, and noted that they don't have a "laser diode" choice available - not that I really expected it anyway. As such, I started off by giving a go at using just their regular diode, but didn't really believe what was going on. Then I figured I'd try to simulate it with a zener diode, and am more satisified with the results; however, I'm still not certain of the operation.
The circuit I simulated was fed by a 6V DC source, to a resistor in series with (the diode, a capacitor, and another resistor). In practice the 6V source would be a voltage regulator fed from 9V DC, lets say. The values I've come up with are 28ohms on the two resistors, and the value of the capacitor is mostly irrelevant is it would serve to hold my voltage more steady during quick voltage fluctuations such as powering it on (lets say it was a 470uF cap) - so without doing the math this would level out my voltage in roughly 10ms - kind of a soft start if you will. Again, the capacitor could be omitted for the basis of my question here, as it doesn't affect anything steady state. I'm not saying the circuit I came up with is remotely correct, but I started off thinking about KVL, thus the two resistors. Knowing that a diode isn't linear, I assumed the diode would take over and force the voltage for that half of the circuit once it gets to its operating voltage, which is something I can't control on the simulator (or I just don't know how), and then first resistor would serve to limit the current to the diode from there on.
So for the diodes:
Method with Zener Diode - The applet requires some information on the zener diode, which I know fundamentally operates completely different from a regular diode when reverse biased, but I am using both in the forward direction. So looking at the datasheet and trying to determine what values to use I've set the zener diode to a forward voltage of 3V at 1A (I don't get a choice to reduce the current to a realistic value for the diode that wont burn it up, so I've had to extrapolate the value from looking at the graphs - not sure if this is the correct approach or not, though it seems logical to me), and because I'm not using the zener in reverse mode it does not matter what I set the zener voltage to. This methode give me 2.27V, and 51.93mA across the diode, which is perfectly in range of the laser diodes operating characteristics. BUT, I don't believe the voltage to current relationship can be established by the single 3V to 1A approach taken by the simulator. I like the results since they align with my LD operating characteristics, but I don't know if they are remotely correct at all.
Method with Regular Diode - Using the extrapolated 3V value at 1A that the applet requires, which was used in the zener diode method gives me, I get the following: 2.66V, and 24.62mA. This whole thing worries me because the method using a regular diode in the simulator gets me close to the max voltage of the diode, and is right at half of the operating current which is less than the turn on (threshold current) so the device wouldn't work anyway. I've played with the resistor settings and nothing seems to change things in my favor. In fact, using only the first resistor in the circuit still never gets me the values I need for the LD to work properly no matter how much I play with it. I'm not sure I can draw much of a conclusion here.
Does anyone have any advice on how to better model this?
Does anyone have any advice on a better circuit, that I can easily duplicate 50+ times?
Per my train of though and previous schooling, the LD should actually get to its operating voltage and then more or less follow its curve depending on the current available, correct?
If you said I was correct on the question directly above, then would you tend to reasonably believe the results I've obtained by simulating it with the applet's zener diode because those two points are generally on the diodes curve, or maybe they still aren't close enough?
Hopefully, there are a few smart people out there that know what really happens. Many thanks for spending time reading this.
-mark-
First post on here, so go easy. I've tried to find what I'm looking for, but am not 100% satisfied just yet.
Generally, what I'm looking to do is have several (50+) low power laser diodes (labeled as 5mW, with output more like ~3-4mW as I understand it for diodes of this type) powered from the same voltage source. I know this is typically an issue as they will not have the same characterisitics, and without limiting the current bad things happen to your diodes and they die off one by one - This, I'd like to avoid. A continuous current source driver appears to be the most common method of protecting the diodes, but I've only really seen them for one diode at a time. I simply do not want to buy/make that many true "drivers," and wasn't really interested in purchasing the lasers as completed modules (i.e. complete with a brass case/heatsink and quasi current limiting circuit) as the cost goes up considereably for the overall project, and most of the modules out there are just huge. The diode I'm looking at is an NEC NDL3210, which on the datasheet is rated at 6mW, but all of the values correspond to 5mW output.
The TYPICAL diode operating characteristics at 5mW, electrically speaking, are as follows:
Operating voltage: 2.2V
Max Operating VOltage: 2.5V
Threshold Current: 40mA
Max Threshold Current: 60mA
Operating Current: 50mA
Max Operating Current: 70mA
Monitor Current: .5mA (not even sure what this is, or if it is something I can even control as the diode is essentially a 2 terminal device excluding case)
Then, there are some ratings that don't make sense to me such as:
Reverse Voltage: 2.0V
Reverse Voltage: 30V
Forward Current: 20mA
I understand what reverse voltage is, but why do they have it listed twice and why are they soooo different in magnitude?
Now that you have the background I'll tell you where I'm stumped. I was using the Circuit Simulator Java Applet found on Falstad dot com, and noted that they don't have a "laser diode" choice available - not that I really expected it anyway. As such, I started off by giving a go at using just their regular diode, but didn't really believe what was going on. Then I figured I'd try to simulate it with a zener diode, and am more satisified with the results; however, I'm still not certain of the operation.
The circuit I simulated was fed by a 6V DC source, to a resistor in series with (the diode, a capacitor, and another resistor). In practice the 6V source would be a voltage regulator fed from 9V DC, lets say. The values I've come up with are 28ohms on the two resistors, and the value of the capacitor is mostly irrelevant is it would serve to hold my voltage more steady during quick voltage fluctuations such as powering it on (lets say it was a 470uF cap) - so without doing the math this would level out my voltage in roughly 10ms - kind of a soft start if you will. Again, the capacitor could be omitted for the basis of my question here, as it doesn't affect anything steady state. I'm not saying the circuit I came up with is remotely correct, but I started off thinking about KVL, thus the two resistors. Knowing that a diode isn't linear, I assumed the diode would take over and force the voltage for that half of the circuit once it gets to its operating voltage, which is something I can't control on the simulator (or I just don't know how), and then first resistor would serve to limit the current to the diode from there on.
So for the diodes:
Method with Zener Diode - The applet requires some information on the zener diode, which I know fundamentally operates completely different from a regular diode when reverse biased, but I am using both in the forward direction. So looking at the datasheet and trying to determine what values to use I've set the zener diode to a forward voltage of 3V at 1A (I don't get a choice to reduce the current to a realistic value for the diode that wont burn it up, so I've had to extrapolate the value from looking at the graphs - not sure if this is the correct approach or not, though it seems logical to me), and because I'm not using the zener in reverse mode it does not matter what I set the zener voltage to. This methode give me 2.27V, and 51.93mA across the diode, which is perfectly in range of the laser diodes operating characteristics. BUT, I don't believe the voltage to current relationship can be established by the single 3V to 1A approach taken by the simulator. I like the results since they align with my LD operating characteristics, but I don't know if they are remotely correct at all.
Method with Regular Diode - Using the extrapolated 3V value at 1A that the applet requires, which was used in the zener diode method gives me, I get the following: 2.66V, and 24.62mA. This whole thing worries me because the method using a regular diode in the simulator gets me close to the max voltage of the diode, and is right at half of the operating current which is less than the turn on (threshold current) so the device wouldn't work anyway. I've played with the resistor settings and nothing seems to change things in my favor. In fact, using only the first resistor in the circuit still never gets me the values I need for the LD to work properly no matter how much I play with it. I'm not sure I can draw much of a conclusion here.
Does anyone have any advice on how to better model this?
Does anyone have any advice on a better circuit, that I can easily duplicate 50+ times?
Per my train of though and previous schooling, the LD should actually get to its operating voltage and then more or less follow its curve depending on the current available, correct?
If you said I was correct on the question directly above, then would you tend to reasonably believe the results I've obtained by simulating it with the applet's zener diode because those two points are generally on the diodes curve, or maybe they still aren't close enough?
Hopefully, there are a few smart people out there that know what really happens. Many thanks for spending time reading this.
-mark-
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