Is this a scam or legit?

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gte

Joined Sep 18, 2009
363
I searched but didn't come up with anything. Looks like it claims to store that is wasted by inductive loads?


http://cgi.ebay.com/Electricity-Pow...tem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item255b65e4ef


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T1200 Specs

  • Single Phase - 90 To 240 Volts AC
  • Enclosure Box - Metal
  • Load Rating - 20 Amps(rate at which the unit will discharge per cycle)
  • Operating Current - Up To 400 Amps
  • Self Healing Electrolytic Matalized Capacitors
  • Load Capacity - 45 kilowatts
  • Withstands Surges Up to 460 VAC
  • Surge Suppression - 6500 Joules
  • Let Through Voltage - 150V Line-To-Neutral
  • Spike Protector: Utility Spike And Electrical / Lightning Storms
  • Transient Noise Reduction: MOV (Metal Oxide Varistor) AC Wave Form Conditioner
  • Operating Life: 80,000 Hours
  • Industrial Quality Capacitors: Able to Handle Heavy Loads With Thermal & Overload Protection
  • All Internal Copper Wiring
  • Metal NEMA Enclosure: CE Approved
  • Double Insulated
  • Box Size 6" x 6" x 4"
  • Length of wires : 3 feet
  • Weight - 5+ LBS

Imagine a small gray box that fits neatly next to your breaker panel, saves you hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars year after year and protects the entire home. Sound too good to be true? The T1200 was designed with the homeowner in mind, providing lower energy bills, increased motor and appliance life, as well as surge and lightning protection for all of the equipment inside of your house. Everyone who has an electric bill should have a Power-Save T1200.
Residential customers throughout USA should see a realized savings 10% minimum and as much as 25% on their electrical usage (and thus power bills).
All Power-Save products are backed by a warranty for surge and lighting protection.
 

sceadwian

Joined Jun 1, 2009
499
It's a glorified power factor correction unit.
It can only supply the advertised savings if EVERYTHING in your home is run by an AC motor. All you're gonna see inside the box when you get it is likley a large AC rated capacitor. Notice no claims of UL or saftey acceptance. Complete junk.
 

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gte

Joined Sep 18, 2009
363
My big electricity users are my fridge and heat pump (a/c). Not sure if my tig welder and air compressor play into that, but of course they don't run all of the time like the fridge and heat or a/c.

Would a UL rated a/c capacitor offer the 10% savings? That'd be $30 to $45 dollars for me depending on the weather.



It's a glorified power factor correction unit.
It can only supply the advertised savings if EVERYTHING in your home is run by an AC motor. All you're gonna see inside the box when you get it is likley a large AC rated capacitor. Notice no claims of UL or saftey acceptance. Complete junk.
 

sceadwian

Joined Jun 1, 2009
499
gte, it depends on the type of meter the power company is using at your place.
Fridges and heat pumps don't run 24/7. 10% savings when they run perhaps 25% of the time is 2.5% savings. The cost of the unit and it's MTBF will make it end up you throwing money away.
 

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gte

Joined Sep 18, 2009
363
That's true, they don't :)

I feel like my a/c is running all of the time though, haha

My power company uses the old style of meters, I believe it's called an inductive meter I think? Do you still think it's not worth < $100 investment?



gte, it depends on the type of meter the power company is using at your place.
Fridges and heat pumps don't run 24/7. 10% savings when they run perhaps 25% of the time is 2.5% savings. The cost of the unit and it's MTBF will make it end up you throwing money away.
 

sceadwian

Joined Jun 1, 2009
499
It's your money. But wiring it into your house may be unsafe if you don't get an electrician to sign off on it. Such devices if improperly used can void home owners insurance.
 

jpanhalt

Joined Jan 18, 2008
11,087
By all means get an electrician and maybe the power company to sign off on it. Depending on how it really works, which is not described, it could be considered meter tampering.

You really don't want to be involved in that. It is illegal and subject to both civil and criminal penalties.

John
 

retched

Joined Dec 5, 2009
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Do more research.

In this case, sceadwian is probably right. And jpanhalt is definitely right.

Meter tampering is big trouble.

And, the large CAP can correct your power factor to a point of ...sometimes noticeable savings.

If your going to spend $100, there are better ways to save power. Right now, Shoppers has 100w~ CFL bulbs 3 for $4. They are their Homelife brand, and only use 23w. I bought a pack Sunday and stuck one into a lamp through a kill-a-watt. 23w.
 
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