IR2011 High side toff too slow (400ns)

ronsimpson

Joined Oct 7, 2019
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Simple test. Change the load from 27 ohms, 1A to 50 ohms 0.5A or 100 ohm 0.25A and tell me what the turn off time is.
If the problem is the Drain current is very low, we will know soon.

Test two. There is a chance the Gate Driver is broken. Short out 24V supply. (0 ohms, 0 volts) What does the signal look like D-S of the MOSFET? Looking for rise and fall time. (fall time!)
 

shortbus

Joined Sep 30, 2009
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In no way am I an expert, but is D2 in the correct place in the schematic in post #1? Shouldn't it be between Vb and ground, not where it is, between Vcc and Vb?
 

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JulieA

Joined Feb 6, 2022
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Simple test. Change the load from 27 ohms, 1A to 50 ohms 0.5A or 100 ohm 0.25A and tell me what the turn off time is.
If the problem is the Drain current is very low, we will know soon.

Test two. There is a chance the Gate Driver is broken. Short out 24V supply. (0 ohms, 0 volts) What does the signal look like D-S of the MOSFET? Looking for rise and fall time. (fall time!)
I will test that
 

ronsimpson

Joined Oct 7, 2019
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The little IR2011 was designed for small to medium MOSFETs not the very large MOSFET.
The data sheet is not clear but it looks like (internally) there is 15 ohms in the IC. Rds on of the MOSFETs inside the part.
It will take some time for 15 ohms to discharge the Gate charge. I am using a Gate Driver with 1/2 ohms, off/on, and it is small for my job.

Please post a picture of you project.
ronsimpson
 

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JulieA

Joined Feb 6, 2022
12
Simple test. Change the load from 27 ohms, 1A to 50 ohms 0.5A or 100 ohm 0.25A and tell me what the turn off time is.
If the problem is the Drain current is very low, we will know soon.

Test two. There is a chance the Gate Driver is broken. Short out 24V supply. (0 ohms, 0 volts) What does the signal look like D-S of the MOSFET? Looking for rise and fall time. (fall time!)
I made the test changing 27ohm by 54ohm (load of the mosfet) and you are right , the Toff is now 800µs , so the load charge on the modfet side as an impact on Cbs discharge even if I don't understand why (it seems that the discharge goes finally through the mosfet )
Thanks
JulieA
 

ronsimpson

Joined Oct 7, 2019
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(it seems that the discharge goes finally through the mosfet )
There is a very large capacitor D-S inside the MOSFET. It charges up fast because the MOSFET passes the current. It discharges by the load. If you take the load to 100 ohms it will take 1.6mS. The MOSFET was designed to see a 95A load which would discharge the cap much faster.
 

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JulieA

Joined Feb 6, 2022
12
There is a very large capacitor D-S inside the MOSFET. It charges up fast because the MOSFET passes the current. It discharges by the load. If you take the load to 100 ohms it will take 1.6mS. The MOSFET was designed to see a 95A load which would discharge the cap much faster.
I Understand,

Regards
 
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