Hi there guyz
{this will be in plain English as most possible for clarity}
These induction aspects Seem obvious to the veterans but if it hasn’t already been claimed I’d like to call this the ‘AtarLC fallout’ thought experiment or just the ‘fallout’ thought experiment because it certainly made me the uninitiated learner think about different aspects.
I’ve been studying LC resonance at mostly the 200hz ratio in ratio to an operating frequency of 50hz
This is the operating frequency at 1/4 the resonance LC frequency {or self resonance} of an inductor.
So to be super clear, if the your 240v outlet is 50 hz then choosing the appropriate capacitor and coupling it to the appropriate inductor based on its inductance
And based on the commonly known equation for LC resonance.
And example would be :
Say a 6 Henry inductor and about a 105nf capacitor would equal 200~hz and if your operating frequency is 50hz then that LC resonance would be at 200hz
This is also the LC resonance that is utilized to induce a {50hz} induction motor into a feedback resonance to make it generate output on a second inductor.
So I would like to share some interesting discoveries based on this so that others can study and perhaps make further discoveries.
So I wound originally two inductors onto a ferret ring core the details of the core are not really important for this explanation but it was 118x80x22
And here is a link to it
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32818088023.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.21094c4d9pWKCg
So originally I wound two counter wound inductors on the ring taking up 180 degrees each so simply one inductor wound one way taking up half and the other counter wound in direction but taking up the other half
Then I connected a bridge of capacitors to the 4 inputs and outputs:
now if you want to try this simply get 4 capacitors and connect two in series and another 2 in series then connect them in parallel, in effect you have a box of capacitors, not if you have an LC meter get one of the capacitors and measure it in that configuration you will see it measures about 1.3 x the original capacity.
I.e you have 4x 1uf capacitors put them into a box as I just explained now measure one you will see it measures 1.3uf
Now simply imagine your two inductors in between the box so you have two in series at the top with the two inductors connected to the two ends of that series pair
And the out the other end of your two inductors another series pair {the bottom of the box} where the two other end of the inductors connect.
So using the example of 1.3 uf { using 1uf caps} if you want this in LC 200 if your input is 50hz the the inductors should be about 633mh inductance {more about that later}
Well I discovered that if I had a lamp on the input of my original example it was bright lit then when I configured it as such And connected the input ‘Active’ lead to the center of the two capacitors at the input and the center of the two capacitors at the output then the lamp 240v 25w was extinguished.
The interesting aspect 180 degrees out of phase at LC 200 to 50 operating.
By placing one scope probe on the input and output of the device but then place the other probe on the inside of the capacitor set on one side of the ‘transformer’ so at the input of one inductor and the at the output of the same but on the ‘inductor side’ of the capacitors then this trace was 180 degrees altered from the input trace
So it is 180 degrees out of phase from the input trace, further more this only occurs when the capacitor network is in LC 200hz resonance to the input operating frequency of 50 hz so input at 1 :4 ratio or the ‘3rd harmony’ multiple of itself
I.e
50 + 50 {1}
100 + 50 {2}
150 + 50 {3}
200
I also then wound two more devices of note here which was the two inductors not counter wound
The same result is observed with at the LC200hz resonance the trace on the inductor being 180deg out of phase
Now there are two aspects the lower the inductance and larger the external capacitor the lower the Q of the effect will be
So theoretically the best Q results would be a self resonance experiment.
So the other was a self resonance experiment when I wound a larger ring 4 of these stacked with 4 wires all simultaneously then splitting those two sets into two Tesla I.e bifilar inductors with self resonance of 200hz
I then simply connected the two inputs and output in parallel which dropped the wire resistance greatly and seemed to raise the V on a secondary that I wound onto it. It seemed like an efficient type of transformer.
But I didn’t test it comprehensively as of yet.
Hope this helps people with discoveries I’ll add pics Please don’t censor this as a sovereign human that would be illegal as I have not entered into any agreements as such with any third parties relating to being censored on this planet regards!
{ I’ll add pics}
{this will be in plain English as most possible for clarity}
These induction aspects Seem obvious to the veterans but if it hasn’t already been claimed I’d like to call this the ‘AtarLC fallout’ thought experiment or just the ‘fallout’ thought experiment because it certainly made me the uninitiated learner think about different aspects.
I’ve been studying LC resonance at mostly the 200hz ratio in ratio to an operating frequency of 50hz
This is the operating frequency at 1/4 the resonance LC frequency {or self resonance} of an inductor.
So to be super clear, if the your 240v outlet is 50 hz then choosing the appropriate capacitor and coupling it to the appropriate inductor based on its inductance
And based on the commonly known equation for LC resonance.
And example would be :
Say a 6 Henry inductor and about a 105nf capacitor would equal 200~hz and if your operating frequency is 50hz then that LC resonance would be at 200hz
This is also the LC resonance that is utilized to induce a {50hz} induction motor into a feedback resonance to make it generate output on a second inductor.
So I would like to share some interesting discoveries based on this so that others can study and perhaps make further discoveries.
So I wound originally two inductors onto a ferret ring core the details of the core are not really important for this explanation but it was 118x80x22
And here is a link to it
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32818088023.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.21094c4d9pWKCg
So originally I wound two counter wound inductors on the ring taking up 180 degrees each so simply one inductor wound one way taking up half and the other counter wound in direction but taking up the other half
Then I connected a bridge of capacitors to the 4 inputs and outputs:
now if you want to try this simply get 4 capacitors and connect two in series and another 2 in series then connect them in parallel, in effect you have a box of capacitors, not if you have an LC meter get one of the capacitors and measure it in that configuration you will see it measures about 1.3 x the original capacity.
I.e you have 4x 1uf capacitors put them into a box as I just explained now measure one you will see it measures 1.3uf
Now simply imagine your two inductors in between the box so you have two in series at the top with the two inductors connected to the two ends of that series pair
And the out the other end of your two inductors another series pair {the bottom of the box} where the two other end of the inductors connect.
So using the example of 1.3 uf { using 1uf caps} if you want this in LC 200 if your input is 50hz the the inductors should be about 633mh inductance {more about that later}
Well I discovered that if I had a lamp on the input of my original example it was bright lit then when I configured it as such And connected the input ‘Active’ lead to the center of the two capacitors at the input and the center of the two capacitors at the output then the lamp 240v 25w was extinguished.
The interesting aspect 180 degrees out of phase at LC 200 to 50 operating.
By placing one scope probe on the input and output of the device but then place the other probe on the inside of the capacitor set on one side of the ‘transformer’ so at the input of one inductor and the at the output of the same but on the ‘inductor side’ of the capacitors then this trace was 180 degrees altered from the input trace
So it is 180 degrees out of phase from the input trace, further more this only occurs when the capacitor network is in LC 200hz resonance to the input operating frequency of 50 hz so input at 1 :4 ratio or the ‘3rd harmony’ multiple of itself
I.e
50 + 50 {1}
100 + 50 {2}
150 + 50 {3}
200
I also then wound two more devices of note here which was the two inductors not counter wound
The same result is observed with at the LC200hz resonance the trace on the inductor being 180deg out of phase
Now there are two aspects the lower the inductance and larger the external capacitor the lower the Q of the effect will be
So theoretically the best Q results would be a self resonance experiment.
So the other was a self resonance experiment when I wound a larger ring 4 of these stacked with 4 wires all simultaneously then splitting those two sets into two Tesla I.e bifilar inductors with self resonance of 200hz
I then simply connected the two inputs and output in parallel which dropped the wire resistance greatly and seemed to raise the V on a secondary that I wound onto it. It seemed like an efficient type of transformer.
But I didn’t test it comprehensively as of yet.
Hope this helps people with discoveries I’ll add pics Please don’t censor this as a sovereign human that would be illegal as I have not entered into any agreements as such with any third parties relating to being censored on this planet regards!
{ I’ll add pics}
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