Can 12 volt insulated 7 turns wire coil with 7 amps AC 60 cycles, induce current into separate bare copper wire 5 turns coil, separated turns, that insulated wire is over wrapped tight, without a metal core effect, and the bare copper has it's own completed wire closed loop path , as it is a separate circuit with power + load, as analogous to being a "transformer secondary" that normally would have full iron core , and full loop path? The bare wire 5t pick up may not have this loop path, and not be "a secondary", and not get amperage transfer? Most current transfer then should be a direct connection. Old document from 2008 has proof reading errors, and is hard to decipher. A wiring project was done back at that time. Not known if direct connection was made. The writing style indicated that induction was involved, but I believe now it was doubtful. Technical written sentences can be taken 2 ways, especially when it's from a second party.
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The bugga-boo is no completed Secondary-Circuit.

The amount of Current that You "may" be able to measure is virtually zero,
especially with an "Air-Core" winding, and very few Turns.
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without a completed wire closed loop path of the bare wire .... ....? The bare wire has it's own circuit separate.

It's far from clear what you are saying TBH. A diagram would help.

 

You can induce voltage in the coil, but if it is open, there will obviously be no current.

 

bare copper wire 5 turns coil that is wrapped tight

If you mean bare wire with the adjacent turns touching, then what you have is a one turn closed loop. And yes, current will flow in the closed loop.

Now tell us what you are trying to do, and we might be able to help you find the right solution.

 

12VAC60Hz-----------------uuuuuuuuuuuuu-------------------12VAC 7 Amperes
A--------------------------------------nnnnn-----------------------------------B

Yes, some induction gets to the 5 turns -------nnnnn-------- coil creating an AC voltage on it that produces no current if points A and B are not linked; and bare or not makes no difference unless the 5 turns are nor enameled and touch each other. But not enameled copper wire wound tight is not even a coil, it is a blob of metal.

 

Also, the primary coil of 7 turns of insulated wire driven with 12 VAC 60Hz does not carry 7 amps.

 

Also, the primary coil of 7 turns of insulated wire driven with 12 VAC 60Hz does not carry 7 amps.

I suspect it is in series with a load.

 

But not enameled copper wire wound tight is not even a coil, it is a blob of metal.

As I said above, it is a shorted 1-turn coil.

 

Not even one turn if you think about it. In fact, it wouldn't even qualify as a coil.

 

As I said above, it is a shorted 1-turn coil.

But the TS stated it had separated turns (below) so it wouldn't be shorted.

induce current into separate bare copper wire 5 turns coil, separated turns,

 

But the TS stated it had separated turns (below) so it wouldn't be shorted.

No, he edited that in today. See the original phrase quoted in my post #5.

bare copper wire 5 turns coil that is wrapped tight

Now I wish I had quoted the entire OP.

 

Busted!

 

I do have the solution for the TS as for how to produce the desired results: You need to provide a core for the coil arrangement made of

 

Using a core and AC, The inductance of the coils in Henries and Frequency in Hertz. Find resonant frequency and best coupling.
You should decide on an approximate frequency then wind the transformer. Use a signal generator to find resonance.
An air coil normally uses wireless transfer, you indicated wire to wire mutual inductance, A core concentrates the flux, that is good.

 

What is the explanation of the reasoning for BARE copper wire??? Insulation on the surface does not affect magnetic coupling. So right now I am asking what is the actual point of the question and of the whole post????

 

 

Also, the primary coil of 7 turns of insulated wire driven with 12 VAC 60Hz does not carry 7 amps.

(Talking about triple wires coils assembly - There was an electromagnet 13 turns attached to the 7 turns first, that carried the same 7amps AC current from alternator to the 7turns. Old document was not clear about whether induction or direct connection was used to pass on the 7 amps to load, on the other copper line. An earlier test they did showed a reduction of 40% current on amp meter, on the insulated side , when the other circuit connected to bare wire was pulsed ON. Reversed flows directions used, causing type of interference. All this was OK, just not knowing how the 7amps current was flowing onward from the electromagnet. There was a side line at joint, going to ground with resistor load for 100% duty cycle electromagnet. 10 amp alternator, 3 amps for electromagnet and balance 7 amps used with 7turns for use somehow with that secondary line of copper. A switch was in series to load on copper side. The 7turns section (if had direct connection to copper side) may have been normally OFF until the switch was back on. A diode in parallel and connected to ground would solve the problem of full path for acting as a secondary side for induction type use. Old document alluded to induction method but may have not been proof read and should have been direct connection type to get full flow of 7amps current..

 

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Bingo!
https://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/threads/large-diode-pass-overvoltage.205252/post-1965438

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When you have two concurrent windings local about the same axis, and a current flowing thru one of them, certainly a VOLTAGE will be induced in the second winding. The reason is because, with ot without iron in the core or elsewhere, IT IS a transformer. Not " the bare copper has it's own completed wire closed loop path , as it is a separate circuit with power + load, as analogous to being a "transformer secondary" that normally would have full iron core "
What the TS is describing IS certainly a transformer, but a rather inefficient transformer. There is no special magic added by having the secondary winding be naked. THAT only works for pole dancers in strip clubs.
I hope that the TS is able to discern the difference!!