https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandit_(raccoon)

 

I've been reading up on that and apparently in animals the spinal cord does almost as much neural control work as their brain does. Once the brain is disconnected the spinal control systems go wild until they run out of oxygen.

I'm guessing that when I do a front shot, being I aim for an eye, I take out the front and upper part of the brain leaving most of the rear lower area that keeps the spinal cord related control damped in place. This one being a low rear shot took that part out hence the full uninhibited reflex actions.

The science behind quickness of death... I love that no science is taboo here.

 

The science behind quickness of death... I love that no science is taboo here.

LED + mains power. = Forbidden evil death science.

So, no. Not all science can be discussed here.

 

I have to agree. That's probably why a farmer cuts a chicken's head off.

This is what happens if the axe misses:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_the_Headless_Chicken

 

Well whatever happened it was a real gusher. Most only loose a few tablespoons and twitch a bit with a front shot. This one went wild. The back deck is 8' x 20' and it was covered from end to end with splatter and it was clearing the top of the deck table table while flopping around.

I got a five gallon bucket and washed it off but their is still a lot all over today I didn't get.



I've been reading up on that and apparently in animals the spinal cord does almost as much neural control work as their brain does. Once the brain is disconnected the spinal control systems go wild until they run out of oxygen.

I'm guessing that when I do a front shot, being I aim for an eye, I take out the front and upper part of the brain leaving most of the rear lower area that keeps the spinal cord related control damped in place. This one being a low rear shot took that part out hence the full uninhibited reflex actions.



Yea even their blood stinks if they lose enough.



Yea, the kitty food was disappearing all week and even the big dish in the house emptied out the other night so I figured something was up.

3rd one this year already. #2 got a slow bad death though. I had a weak shell that didn't penetrate the skull. (walmart ammunition has a dud every now and then) It knocked it down then went convulsions but instead of dieing it jumped up and ran away and got into the tall grass before I could get a clear 2nd shot.

I tried to track it down but after 100 yards through the brush and trees behind the house I lost the blood trail.



30+ are not uncommon here and I have heard stories of a few that weighed out around 40, but not 80!

I think I'd need to invest in a shotgun or a .223 dear rifle for one of those!

To bad ammo for ye olde Continental .600 is no longer available
But then, in my experience, a 'plain vanilla' (i.e. H&H) .375 Mag is up to anything you'll encounter in N. America! -- That said, ballasting (i.e. 'weighting') of the rifle is strongly recommended lest the recoil scores one a 'home goal'!

Very best regards
HP

 

The science behind quickness of death... I love that no science is taboo here.

With the possible (we can but hope) exception of political science!

TTFN
HP

 

To bad ammo for ye olde Continental .600 is no longer available
But then, in my experience, a 'plain vanilla' (i.e. H&H) .375 Mag is up to anything you'll encounter in N. America! -- That said, ballasting (i.e. 'weighting') of the rifle is strongly recommended lest the recoil scores one a 'home goal'!

Depends on the shooter. I know several people who took down a full grown doe and buck deer with a 22's. Close range eye socket shots. Scramble the brain and it's done. Anything else just gets them mad.

One former co worker I had years ago took down a large deer with a hunting knife once. It charged him so he jumped on it and stabbed in the neck until it went down!
He won but admitted it was stupid to try and he got roughed up pretty good in the process.

Said something to the effect it was likely emergency room worthy but he didn't want to show up covered in blood because they get pretty wound up about people showing up like that. If it's not all your blood they want to know who's it came from and it gets expensive and time consuming proving it to them and the cops and whomever else they drag in regarding it.

 

when I was 17 I saw a friend commit suicide by putting blasting cap in his mouth But I never shed any tears for him cuz suicide is totally inexcusable (except in some cases of extreme incurable health issue which wasn't his problem) so I didn't see it as tragic I just saw it as RUDE cuz if he insisted on topping himself he could have done it in private! Life is negative enough w/o getting spattered head to toe with tissue that was part of living body of friend a moment b4

@Aleph(0) Although you have often stated that many regard your attitude in this matter 'callous' -- I feel you are being far too kind to 'the departed' whose cowardly act jeopardized your life and that of other bystanders!

By way of clarification of the hazards posed -- below is a non-violent (i.e. zero carnage) demonstration of the energy released via detonation of a blasting cap...

IMO you may count your blessings that an unpleasant memory was your sole 'takeaway'!

Sincerely
HP

PS
@tcmtech -- My rationale for this (off-topic) post is self-explanatory -- That said, I'll happily delete it sans argument or prejudice upon your request!

 

-- below is a non-violent (i.e. zero carnage) demonstration of the energy released via detonation of a blasting cap...

Cool! Reminds me of what my buddies and I would do on summer nights back in the day. That looks to be the equivalent of about five M-80s.

 

That looks to be the equivalent of about five M-80s.

I wouldn't doubt it! -- Those electrically-detonated caps are the very devil!

Best regards
HP

 

Cool! Reminds me of what my buddies and I would do on summer nights back in the day. That looks to be the equivalent of about five M-80s.

Someone once told me an M-80 is equivalent to 1/4 stick of dynamite. Is that true?

kv

 

Someone once told me an M-80 is equivalent to 1/4 stick of dynamite. Is that true?

kv

I doubt that very much although I recall hearing that also. I once made some of my own powder very similar to what is used in M-80s. If I recall, an M-80 contains only about 1g of this powder. Mine contained 7g and was notably more powerful. But I would expect a heckuva lot more energy from a genuine stick of dynamite. Never used it, so I can't say for sure. My dad said it was the standard way to get stumps out of the ground down on the farm when he was a kid. You'd just go to town and buy it in the hardware store. Seems to be backed up by this fun reference:
http://io9.gizmodo.com/5915253/this-1910-brochure-explained-how-to-farm-with-dynamite

 

Someone once told me an M-80 is equivalent to 1/4 stick of dynamite. Is that true?

kv

In a word; no!

The yield of an M-80 (i.e. ≈ 3 gm 'flash powder') ≈ 28 kJ
Whereas the yield of a 'standard' blasting cartridge (AKA 'medium stick of dynamite', if you will) ≈ 2.3 MJ

Ratio ≈ 1:82

I don't know where the '1/4 stick of dynamite' nonsense began -- but nonsense it is!

Best regards
HP

 

isn't black powder sub sonic and dynamite super sonic?

 

I don't know where the '1/4 stick of dynamite' nonsense began -- but nonsense it is!

I don't know either but here's a speculation. The M-80 is meant primarily to make noise whereas dynamite delivers a lot of "push". Maybe the intensity of sound generated by dynamite is not as 'sharp' as that of the aluminum-based flash powder of the M-80. Seems like a stretch, but maybe it's part of the story. Or the quarter stick thing was just utter nonsense that kids tell each other. I had blood poisoning in my hand a year or two ago and I couldn't help but recall that kids would always say that if the red streak reaches your heart, you die. As much as I figured that was childhood nonsense, I did scoot to the ER when it got above my elbow.

 

Maybe the intensity of sound generated by dynamite is not as 'sharp' as that of the aluminum-based flash powder of the M-80. Seems like a stretch, but maybe it's part of the story.

Could be! -- Counterintuitively 'tho it may seem, low velocity explosions are often sensibly louder (especially at close proximity) than high velocity blasts of equivalent yield...

I had blood poisoning in my hand a year or two ago and I couldn't help but recall that kids would always say that if the red streak reaches your heart, you die. As much as I figured that was childhood nonsense, I did scoot to the ER when it got above my elbow.

Good move! Sepsis is nothing to fool around with!

Best regards
HP

 

isn't black powder sub sonic and dynamite super sonic?

Correct! Traditional 'black powder' is classed as a 'low velocity' explosive -- That said, certain 'smokeless powder' formulations contain high-velocity 'components'... Moreover, supersonic shock propagation will occur in blasts set up by deflagrating (i.e. 'low velocity') agents given sufficient pressure... Please note that, contrary to common belief, the explosive 'force' available from most common 'low velocity' explosives derives not from the shock attending disruption of their containment but to the fact that they, indeed, detonate under sufficient pressure! -- Hence the 'blurring of the lines', as it were...

Best regards
HP

 

@tcmtech -- My rationale for this (off-topic) post is self-explanatory -- That said, I'll happily delete it sans argument or prejudice upon your request!

You know I am not that fussy about thread drift! If it's informative it counts. BTW. I have had a few former school associates kill themselves over the years so can relate to the mixed feelings anyone would have.

One was a best friend who hung himself in grade school on a stupid dare thinking he was invincible. overweight and a nylon scarf don't work well together.
A second one died in a dumb vehicle crash when he was 13 or 14. Went off the end of their driveway and rolled without seatbelt and was crushed trying to jump out.
Another shot himself after being framed for theft by a crooked manager just out of high school. Manager fessed up and went to jail for theft and his death.
One more drank himself to death in his 20's after he developed diabetes and refused to manage it.
Heard that a one or more former college associates knocked themselves off when they couldn't find work and the bills came due or something like that.
Lost another high school associate a year or two ago to a stupid accident.

Then there are a lot more people I heard of over the years that I once knew that are from outside that social circle range that either killed themselve or were killed by others.

 

Cool! Reminds me of what my buddies and I would do on summer nights back in the day. That looks to be the equivalent of about five M-80s.

My brother makes amautre fireworks so explosions far bigger than that are a daily event here in the summer.

http://www.mumpyro.com/

We have done the 4th of July show at the state fair a few times and were planning on doing it again this year but the sponsorship funding has been terrible. A couple of bigger donors backed out so as of right now they're building with the intent to run the show only if enough money comes in to pay for materials.

Years ago the local parks and entertainment district tax money used to go toward such stuff but too much of that money now goes to stupid stuff through questionable accounting and whatnot. Someone figured out how to get their fingers in the local entertainment budget pie and nobody at the public level knows or cares to want to hear about it.

 

In a word; no!

The yield of an M-80 (i.e. ≈ 3 gm 'flash powder') ≈ 28 kJ
Whereas the yield of a 'standard' blasting cartridge (AKA 'medium stick of dynamite', if you will) ≈ 2.3 MJ

Ratio ≈ 1:82

I don't know where the '1/4 stick of dynamite' nonsense began -- but nonsense it is!

Best regards
HP

Alright, in a word.

Best regards
kv