This is about high school. I followed this domain by our educational criterions, I didn't understand what is with the montages and i kept asking myself why do i have to draw a circuit when i didn't know what happened with the pieces in the actual moment. I muddled trough school and i didn't knew why i choosed this domain. Maybe it's because of the sofisticated name.I am asking you if i can hired with the degree but no practical knowledge, i mean you write math formulas and you calculate what you have to calculate without keeping tabs on to put something to work. The worst part is that we don't have the electronics department in our town and the only departmant that is alive is electro-technics. All i know is that i wield Ohm's law, Kirchhoff's law and the current+voltage formulas. Also, our Ms class teacher explained us at her hour that all we have to know is to complete the cv and that's all. Our Ms class teacher is an english teacher.

I hope to get some answers soon!

No one?Why am I being ignored?

 

A little patience goes a long way. This is not a chat room.

It doesn't mean very much. People get hired based on the ability to sell themselves. The ability to write a coherent paragraph with correct spelling, punctuation, and sentence structure goes a long way toward making the sale. The impression I get is that you "floated" through school as if you were doing time on planet Earth. Maybe there are things you can do, but they didn't come through in your paragraph. Which leads me to my question: "What can we do to help you"?

 

Can you be hired as an electronic technician if you never had experience in lab?I'm asking this because all I learned are some formulas about electronic components(diodes,transistors,resistors) and I don't know how to make a circuit with them because we never had a pcb.Is this how you learn electronics?The theoretical way?

I know how to use a soldering gun but that doesn't feel like electronics.I never learned in school what a pcb does and the teachers never explained to us why we have to use them.All they told us is that we have to learn that that and that and that practice comes after theory.The result?I had no idea what to do with the resistors,diodes and transistors from our circuits and we had to understand them.I can say that everyone knows how to put some components in a pcb but I never understood their use or effects.

 

Can you be hired as an electronic technician if you never had experience in lab?I'm asking this because all I learned are some formulas about electronic components(diodes,transistors,resistors) and I don't know how to make a circuit with them because we never had a pcb.Is this how you learn electronics?The theoretical way?

It seems unlikely, unless they have some funding or a grant to train you. Long before PCBs (Printed Circuits Boards) came into widespread use we (my friends and I) built radio receivers and transmitters with point to point wiring on an aluminum chassis. We learned to work aluminum to make cutouts for tubes, switches, transformers and other components. I didn't see or work on a PCB until after college. I've learned a great deal of math, but also learned from building Heathkits when I was a teenager. I did not do my first design until I had been out of college for more than a decade.

 

I know how to use a soldering gun but that doesn't feel like electronics.I never learned in school what a pcb does and the teachers never explained to us why we have to use them.All they told us is that we have to learn that that and that and that practice comes after theory.The result?I had no idea what to do with the resistors,diodes and transistors from our circuits and we had to understand them.I can say that everyone knows how to put some components in a pcb but I never understood their use or effects.

No technicians that I know use a soldering gun. It is too heavy and imprecise for work on surface mount components. The new challenge is working with lead free solder and liquid flux.

 

We also don't have an electronic kids club since 2006.It shutdown and after that only a few learned something from that club.
Do I stand a chance in this market with what I know?After all it is the practice skill that we miss and not the theory.

 

Presumably you have some electronics bent, otherwise you are flogging a dead horse!
If you do have some, then there is a vast amount of information out there in downloadable material and circuitry, a world of difference compared to when I developed the same interests, many decades ago.
You have to go out there and seek it out, based on your personal interest and curiosity.
Start actually building simple circuits in the particular electronics area that interests you.
In some cases you may have to accept a menial job that is related some how, just to gain the experience you need.
IOW it has to come from you, no one is going to deliver it to you.
Max.

 

I said ,,we'' here because we were a lot of students in this domain but unfortunately only a guy from my class was good at this but the rest.....Electronics to us and to me was a boring class like math.All we did was memorizing n formulas without applying them.
Is there a chance to become an engineer in electronics if you had a poor lab and only theoretical knowledges?Is that what engineering is about?More theory less practice?I dreamed to become an engineer but now after what I passed I have no idea if this is a fit career for me.

 

Well for my two cents, if electronics was/is boring to you, you need to seek some other avenue of employment that grabs you, obviously electronics is not going to cut it.
Max.

 

I'm at a significant loss as to where you are actually at. I'm guessing that your native language isn't English and that is making it difficult for me to piece together some of the specifics of your situation.

You say that this is about high school, but then you mention degrees and talk about an Ms class teacher. It's probably just an issue of word choice, but I can't tell if you are talking about a high-school education (so finishing somewhere in the range of 18 years old), a bachelor's education (finishing at the age of something like 22 or so) or a master's program (say 24 years old). Could you be a bit more specific about what level of education you are at?

In general, I would say that if you have seen your electronics education as nothing but boring and that your level of learning is based on memorizing formulas, that you are very probably in the wrong field. Engineering is one area where a passion for the topic and for problem solving in general is very important. Remember -- you may not love the field, but you will always be competing with people that do.

But one big unknown (for us, since we have no idea where you are from) is whether your situation is typical or unusual. In the U.S. and most places, someone describing their educational experience and skills they way you have would likely have been thoroughly cheated by some very poor school that was only interested in separating you from your money without actually teaching you anything. But is some parts of the world your description is probably pretty normal. Your odds for employment really depends on where your knowledge and skills are relative to the rest of the applicant pool.

 

MaxHeadRoom which part of we had a poor lab of electronics don't you get it?
The lab had some old components but nothing more.This is all we had.
We were trained in some tester pcbs but the truth is that our engineer had no money to buy us the real things.He died after a short period of time and he left us nothing but despair and suffering.
I also feel bad for myself because my level of knowledge in electronics is lower than a club kid of electronics.Sure the theory is great but without support from someone I will end up as a poor educated engineer.Is it worth this?

 

hi wolly,
Could you tell us your location, it would give us an idea of the possible learning organisations and career opportunities.
E

 

hi wolly,
Could you tell us your location, it would give us an idea of the possible learning organisations and career opportunities.
E

Europe,Romania.

Well what would your advice be for me?Should I choose another career?

Uh am I talking to myself?Why can't I get an advice?Why am I being ignored?

 

You are not being ignored. For the second time, you need to understand the difference between a "chat room" and a forum. You just cannot expect to get answers within minutes. 12-24 hours might be typical. It is hard to give you advice because our experience has little or no relation to your reality. I have no idea what companies exist in Romania today that do the kinds of things you are interested in. If your preparation is inadequate to securing a means of employment, then by all means that should be your first priority. I don't know what else we can do for you except to say that none of us had things happen on a time scale you seem to be expecting.

My education in electronics started in 1960 when I was 12
I wrote my first FORTRAN program for an IBM 7090 in 1962 when I was 14 years old
My first (summer) job happened in 1966 when I was 18
My first single board computer design happened in 1985 when I was 37
My last embedded system design happened in 2011 when I was 63
I retired in 2014 after nearly a half a century in industry

The only lesson I can offer is that things do not happen overnight. It takes patience, planning, and a little bit of good fortune.
If this field is not for you, then I wish you good fortune in whatever else it is you decide to pursue.

 

So I will have no chance in this career?This is what I want to find out.

 

The lab had some old components but nothing more.This is all we had.

What do you mean by old components? Old design, or previously used?

Most of the circuits I design use components that were designed decades ago, e.g. CD4xxx logic, LM358, LM339, 2N3904. Many of the parts I use have been in my parts stock for as long as 40 years.

 

The components were from the 80s.

 

The components were from the 80s.

Components manufactured in the 80s are still quite useful. It's not the age of components that matters; it's how you use them.

 

Well what would your advice be for me?Should I choose another career?

Uh am I talking to myself?Why can't I get an advice?Why am I being ignored?

Evidently you have edited your O.P. where you originally indicated a disinterest in the subject.
You have been given plenty of advice IMO.
Success in any career is also dependent on supply and demand, as with any other product you are selling, very few here will know the market for your skills in your country or area.
As I indicated earlier, your success is also determined by just how much personal interest you have in the desire to succeed in the subject of electronics, and learn as much as possible in your own time, from material that is available out there on the Web.
Even old components and devices can teach you a great deal, the basic premise and theory has not really changed that much, just the nature of the modern device, which you can advance to when you have the basics down.
You HAVE to understand these first.
Max.

 

Max your advice would be for me to choose something else if I wasn't trained properly for this?