How to light a blue LED?

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joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
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Of course I know how to light a blue LED. The question was click bait.

I'm working on a new design -- a PIC based instrument powered by 2 'AA' batteries. Let's call the low battery condition 1.8V.

The PIC will be powered by a 3.0V high efficiency switcher. I need to drive a single 3.3 Vf (10 - 20mA If) blue LED from the MCU.

I have my own way of doing this. I'm looking for new and different ideas. Guidelines, in order of importance:

1. cheap
2. efficient
3. number of parts

All parts must be small (relatively speaking) and surface mount.

Edit: assume a full compliment of PIC hardware/peripherals are at your disposal.

Floor's open. Anyone?
 

OBW0549

Joined Mar 2, 2015
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Maybe drive it from a capacitor/diode charge pump driven by a PIC PWM output? Or, if you use any of the dsPIC33EP series, you could drive it from the Reference Oscillator output if the PWMs are all spoken for.
 

RichardO

Joined May 4, 2013
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What voltage is the PIC running at?
My first thought is to charge an inductor through a small MOS-FET. When the FET is turned off the charge is dumped into the LED. Choose the inductor and drive frequency to set the current in the LED.
 

AlbertHall

Joined Jun 4, 2014
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Depending which PIC, and whether you are using the internal clock source, you can output the clock or a reference clock, which could drive a diode pump.
 

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joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
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One more preference: I'd like to power the led circuit directly from the batteries, not through the switcher. And LED brightness should be consistent from full to low batteries. You may assume that I know the exact battery voltage.
 

SLK001

Joined Nov 29, 2011
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Instead of adding circuitry to light a blue LED that you found, why not get a blue LED that you can light with less than 3V?
 

OBW0549

Joined Mar 2, 2015
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One more preference: I'd like to power the led circuit directly from the batteries, not through the switcher. And LED brightness should be consistent from full to low batteries. You may assume that I know the exact battery voltage.
In that case I'd vote for RichardO's suggestion of an inductive pump powered off the batteries, with the MOSFET driven by a PWM output from the PIC. You can then adjust the LED current and brightness by varying the PWM duty cycle according to the measured battery voltage.
 

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joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
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Naturally, I've already done a parametric search at Digikey.

I did mention surface mount above, but I didn't mention it had to have a domed top. There is only one part that fills those requirements:

http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/kingbright/APTD1608LVBC-D/754-1948-2-ND/5177449

It runs between 2.2 and 3V at 2mA -- not sure I'll get enough brightness out of it on the high end (due to current limiting resistor) or at all since it is such low power. Also, the brightness will change considerable wrt temperature.

And sole source...big no-no...
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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How is your need different than a solar garden light, which runs an LED off a single cell? Since they give these things away, they must at least be cheap. Never saw one that was surface mount but surely there is one.
 

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joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
6,305
How is your need different than a solar garden light, which runs an LED off a single cell? Since they give these things away, they must at least be cheap. Never saw one that was surface mount but surely there is one.
Anything built by the millions in China is always cheap. This ain't it.

Get a garden solar light, they give out 3.6v from a 1.2v nicad @ 100mA.
Sorry, but I am not going to install a garden light into my product simply to light a blue status LED.

I am looking for clever ideas that are cheap, small, and efficient. I'll probably just use a switched cap, but it's not all that efficient.
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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Sorry, but I am not going to install a garden light into my product simply to light a blue status LED.
What I was thinking was that you could use the same technique they use with an IC and a single inductor, with your PIC performing the same role as the IC. It's just a Joule thief with an enable switch.
 

BobTPH

Joined Jun 5, 2013
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Just run it directly from the 3V switcher. I expect it will be plenty bright and constant. I win on parts count, anyway.

Bob
 
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