How should I better design an Amplifier with a Comparator

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BIjoy_3000

Joined Sep 19, 2024
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Hello Community,
I am facing a problem while building an amplifier for a Photodiode in Photovoltaic mode.
I have connected a few photodiodes in series; then I applied a high-pass filter. Now I want to amplify the voltage signal across R3 (in the figure). I went with a non-inverting amplifier design with a comparator.
Screenshot 2025-05-12 at 07.02.43.png The problem I am facing is that during the first few micro second, the output of the comparator is like this:
Screenshot 2025-05-12 at 07.00.38.png

That is because if I compare the inputs of the comparator:

Screenshot 2025-05-12 at 07.02.26.png

So I am asking for some help for the betterment of my design.
 
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Ian0

Joined Aug 7, 2020
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Hello Community,
I am facing a problem while building an amplifier for a Photodiode in Photovoltaic mode.
I have connected a few photodiodes in series; then I applied a high-pass filter. Now I want to amplify the voltage signal across R3 (in the figure). I went with a non-inverting amplifier design with a comparator.
View attachment 349014 The problem I am facing is that during the first few micro second, the output of the comparator is like this:
View attachment 349015

That is because if I compare the inputs of the comparator:

View attachment 349016

So I am asking for some help for the betterment of my design.
That is what happens as C2 charges up to the photodiode voltage.
Is what happens in the first few microseconds important?
 

schmitt trigger

Joined Jul 12, 2010
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Photovoltaic? Why not use photoconductive?

Search for trans impedance amplifier for photodiodes.
The circuit not only will be simpler, but it will be orders of magnitude faster and with improved range.

EDIT: and you won’t require a DC gain of 5000X.
EDIT 2: the OPA380 is already a trans impedance amplifier. Use the datasheet circuits and recommendations. Don’t re-invent the wheel.
 
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BIjoy_3000

Joined Sep 19, 2024
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Photovoltaic? Why not use photoconductive?

Search for trans impedance amplifier for photodiodes.
The circuit not only will be simpler, but it will be orders of magnitude faster and with improved range.

EDIT: and you won’t require a DC gain of 5000X.
EDIT 2: the OPA380 is already a trans impedance amplifier. Use the datasheet circuits and recommendations. Don’t re-invent the wheel.

Many thanks for the reply. I have to use photovoltaics since I want to see the possibility of harvesting energy. Accepting this condition, how can I improve the circuit?
NB: Being faster is not my priority.
 

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BIjoy_3000

Joined Sep 19, 2024
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That is what happens as C2 charges up to the photodiode voltage.
Is what happens in the first few microseconds important?
I want to decode a message sent by the transmitter. Probably not urgent to have them, but it would be better to have them.
 

Ian0

Joined Aug 7, 2020
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By an LED, simple OOK light modulation for now. The message can be slow for this prototype
If the circuit is already running then there won't be a problem, because it will already have gone through the start-up charging of the capacitor.
If you are trying to use a photovoltaic panel to receive the signal, don't forget the size of the junction capacitance!
 

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BIjoy_3000

Joined Sep 19, 2024
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If the circuit is already running then there won't be a problem, because it will already have gone through the start-up charging of the capacitor.
If you are trying to use a photovoltaic panel to receive the signal, don't forget the size of the junction capacitance!

Thank you, i will keep in mind
 

MisterBill2

Joined Jan 23, 2018
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The circuit analysis is made much less easy because of showing it as a wiring diagram instead of using correct symbols. And the boxes with numbers AR NOT the correct symbols!!
And certainly the comments in posts #2 and #3 are valid. And also the comment in post #4.
 
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