Graphene

GopherT

Joined Nov 23, 2012
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GopherT....were you able to touch it on the floor of the dish?....or could you pick it up?

Was it light and fluffy? I mean could you easily blow it out of the dish?
I never realized there was a follow up to my post...

That is like trying to describe how heavy a piece 1/2" x 1/2" cellophane feels. It weighed nothing.
The technique to pick it up is to puff a breath of air on your finger and that humidity gives enough tack to pick it up when you touch the top. I was mostly surprised that I could hold it without breaking it.
 

BR-549

Joined Sep 22, 2013
4,931
Does it reflect light......like cellophane does?......so that you can perceive a surface?.......or can you see the surface directly? Does it bow/bend like cellophane?
 

pmd34

Joined Feb 22, 2014
529
I work as a physics researcher and am a bit of a graphene skeptic. It really doesn't seem to be panning out to be the wonder material it was supposed to be, and the chemists have known the magic properties of graphite sheets (Hightly oriented pyrolytic graphite - HOPG)
for eons. I believe most of the attention comes from the fact that its easy to explain and sounds cool: "think hexagons and pencil lead" so its had a lot of press in the media. So now if you can somehow fit it into your research application the political referees all go "ooo ive heard of that.. that's high-tech... give it some money!" The ultimate pot of money of cause going to the project that claims it can take CO2 from the air and convert it into graphene! Its probably just another buckminsterfullerene, I still prefer diamonds!
 

Ya’akov

Joined Jan 27, 2019
10,249
I work as a physics researcher and am a bit of a graphene skeptic.
One of the very high powered researchers at my university (my just past employer) was a quiet graphene skeptic because other research groups were involved in attempting to use it as a semiconductor substrate. He told me, confidentially, he had little hope for it. He is a rather amazing guy who works on stuff ranging from THz transistors, to DNA sequencing through silicon nanopores, to ensemble cell behavior (life, basically), to cancer drug evaluation with tenured chairs in both EE and Biology, so I tend to take his opinions seriously.
 

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Wendy

Joined Mar 24, 2008
23,798
While it may seem like vaporware, All it takes is one unique use. Buckytubes, which are closely related material may make a superconductor if doped correctly or the mythical scifi version of super strength mono-filament. Carbon is super cheap, we actually have too much of it on this planet. Basically as humanity gets better at nanotech, More and more new materials will be developed. It is worth keeping an eye on developments.
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
16,330
While it may seem like vaporware, All it takes is one unique use. Buckytubes, which are closely related material may make a superconductor if doped correctly or the mythical scifi version of super strength mono-filament. Carbon is super cheap, we actually have too much of it on this planet. Basically as humanity gets better at nanotech, More and more new materials will be developed. It is worth keeping an eye on developments.
We need a new word for it as vaporware is much too negative. Maybe we can call it Hypeware instead.
All the things that make the difference are still in research and may never develop into usable products with capabilities beyond what's available today in bulk priced materials.
 

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Wendy

Joined Mar 24, 2008
23,798
A funny thought just occurred, If we glom on carbon too hard, might we run out? It could be the next global warming scare.
 

jpanhalt

Joined Jan 18, 2008
11,087
We can call it, "carbonate apocalypse." Global cooling will lead to an increase in capture of CO2 by geological processes into carbonates. Just look at the cliffs in Dover. The world will be covered with them. There won't be enough CO2 left in the air for complex plants. They will vanish. Then complex animals will perish, and all that will be left is chemotrophic microbes.

Just in case I ever run for an elected office, I am not being serious. However, there was a Scientific American issue way back with "Snowball Earth" on its front page.* That was when the concern was global cooling. One comment has stuck with me through the years, "natural geologic process on Earth fixate CO2." (Quote may not be word for word accurate.)

*A search revealed this: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/snowball-earth/ The article I remember was way before that . But, it could be bad memory too.
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
18,112
We can call it, "carbonate apocalypse." Global cooling will lead to an increase in capture of CO2 by geological processes into carbonates. Just look at the cliffs in Dover. The world will be covered with them. There won't be enough CO2 left in the air for complex plants. They will vanish. Then complex animals will perish, and all that will be left is chemotrophic microbes.

Just in case I ever run for an elected office, I am not being serious. However, there was a Scientific American issue way back with "Snowball Earth" on its front page.* That was when the concern was global cooling. One comment has stuck with me through the years, "natural geologic process on Earth fixate CO2." (Quote may not be word for word accurate.)

*A search revealed this: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/snowball-earth/ The article I remember was way before that . But, it could be bad memory too.
It would make for a good science fiction project. The oceans are, on average, supersaturated with calcium carbonate. If some mollusk or reef critter were to come along – genetically engineered by an evil genius? – that is better at shell (or reef) building than our natural ones, they could pull down all that carbon, which would in turn pull it out of our atmosphere and freeze us all. Maybe that's what led to past ice ages?
 

Danko

Joined Nov 22, 2017
2,172
I heard that some nanomaterials like Graphene, PCBM and others better to buy in special places like here . Because in simple store or drugstore you can not find it. Because as we know such materials use in special cases and scientific researches.
Be careful, do not vex @Wendy !
She already did delete my similar post about this store.
 

Janis59

Joined Aug 21, 2017
1,894
There are two things born slightly before me, the nuclear syntheis reactor which will solve all the Humankind needs for energy and graphene supermaterial what will cure all other problems in Universe. Both will be commercially obtainable just about this week end, okay, nex year, no, sorry next decade, .... now the 60 years are in the past and both MAY BE ever will be existant in nearest few centuries...
 
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