meh... another SJW who did not appreciate what he had and figured someone will care about how he feels... i'd fire him too just to teach him a lesson.

 

Here in my part of the woods (the San Francisco Bay Area), this news item has really caught fire:

From my 35 years of work experience, science and engineering is in fact a male dominated field and I don't believe "social engineering" (affirmative action or diversity programs) are a solution to this problem.

Re: the video -- I call foul! - To eschew 'political correctness' is to relinquish all rights to use of 'shaming'

TTFN
HP

 

Lots of Google critics out there ....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Google

Now the memo specifically, I have not read a copy other than those on websites that html versions. There is no indication they were transcribed or anything else. I'm hoping to find a pdf version of the 10 page document.

There may be disagreements with his hypothesis, but, that's fine.

Do I think it's fair for Google to fire him? Sure. Google did say he violated the code of conduct, which could come back to bite them in the ass if his attorneys can demonstrate that another who violated the code of conduct remained employed and not terminated, even if the employee left on their own accord.

Some of it reads like a review of the studies out there. If that were the case, all the professors who write studies should take heed.

The MSM certainly got numerous people's hackle up with their selective reporting.

 

Re: the video -- I call foul! - To eschew 'political correctness' is to relinquish all rights to use of 'shaming'

TTFN
HP

The horror.

 

Like Google cares. Have you looked at the stock price? ($930.00/share) Can you compute the market capitalization? (650 Gigabucks) Does a monopoly ever really lose?

I've done a lot of investigation of Google (and other large tech companies) and according to their 10K Share Holders Report (required by the Securities & Exchange Commission), the company isn't quite as lustrous as people think.

Google/Alphabet is relying a lot on government subsidies for projects (like their so called self driving car) and the company also has a real estate speculation venture that's heavily fueled by government agencies. According to the 10K report, 75% of Google/Alphabet stock is held by only 23 share holders. The other 25% is public (or probably shareholders who have inside connections). If the company tanks, those 23 shareholders will still make out like a bandit while the others loose their behinds -IE- remember Enron and Kenny Boy Laye?

People will tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about and these big tech companies are doing just fine. However, I've done a lot of investigation of the tech industry and the so called "real estate boom" in the S.F. Bay Area and I can tell you it's another bubble like in 2008 and the whole economy is getting ready to implode again.

This time, the state and local governments will take the brunt of the impact and smart people are moving out of California in anticipation of the monstrous tax increases. Stay tuned for more on this developing story!!!

 

I've done a lot of investigation of Google (and other large tech companies) and according to their 10K Share Holders Report (required by the Securities & Exchange Commission), the company isn't quite as lustrous as people think.

Google/Alphabet is relying a lot on government subsidies for projects (like their so called self driving car) and the company also has a real estate speculation venture that's heavily fueled by government agencies. According to the 10K report, 75% of Google/Alphabet stock is held by only 23 share holders. The other 25% is public (or probably shareholders who have inside connections). If the company tanks, those 23 shareholders will still make out like a bandit while the others loose their behinds -IE- remember Enron and Kenny Boy Laye?

People will tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about and these big tech companies are doing just fine. However, I've done a lot of investigation of the tech industry and the so called "real estate boom" in the S.F. Bay Area and I can tell you it's another bubble like in 2008 and the whole economy is getting ready to implode again.

This time, the state and local governments will take the brunt of the impact and smart people are moving out of California in anticipation of the monstrous tax increases. Stay tuned for more on this developing story!!!

I think you just made my point. Too big to fail means exactly what you think it means. If I had to place a bet on James Damore and his high priced lawyer and the legal team from Google I don't think it is much of a contest. Just because I know the price and market cap doesn't mean I own the stock, and 25% of 650 GBucks is still an enormous amount of float. Especially considering most companies are a tiny fraction of that.

 

It looks to me like the guy wanted out..

Unless he really was that ignorant.

Guess it's treacherous going for the absent minded engineer these days in the corporate workplace. Que sera sera.

On the other hand they have dumb down programming so much I don't think true engineers

head to that discipline anymore.

 

It looks to me like the guy wanted out..

Unless he really was that ignorant.

Guess it's treacherous going for the absent minded engineer these days in the corporate workplace. Que sera sera.

On the other hand they have dumb down programming so much I don't think true engineers

head to that discipline anymore.

Yeah, they've all taken up embedded systems programming. We've perfected the art of making the WORLD'S MOST EXPENSIVE LED FLASHERS! Bar none.

 

I say the guy wanted out.

San Francisco is a hotbed of political correctness.

In the 90's a guy explained the 'Software Solutions'.

The projects can be modularized. So programmers can be replaced easily.

It's not creative program writing. It's just office work.Not a big brain strain.

A few higher up's design the projects.

They are getting payed so much money they can apply a fair amount of

time and energy on keeping their foot out of their mouth.

 

I've heard that Facebook is purportedly worth $350 Billion, but what in the Hell does Facebook do that's worth that astronomical price? The media claims that Facebook is a power house because it can sell advertising on its site. Also, according to Google's shareholder report, that company earns about 79% of its income through advertising.

But there are 100s of online advertisers and the demand for advertising is not infinite. So how can the combined value of these companies be worth over a $Trillion? On a similar note, Twitter was supposed to be another advertising giant, but it has not turned a profit the entire time since it went public. Yet investors are buying stock in a worthless company.

Seems these big companies are nothing more than a lottery and a Ponzie scheme. However, when the whole scheme collapses, it's going to be ugly as Hell!!!

 

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/tech...re-for-female-employees/ar-AApO4lI?li=AAggbRN

In a shocking news, a group of more than 60 current and former Google employees are considering bringing a class-action lawsuit alleging sexism and pay disparities against women in the company, guardian.com reports. James Finberg, attorney working on a possible lawsuit against the tech giant, told the Guardian that women claim they have earned less than men at Google despite equal qualifications and at-par positions. While some others claim that females struggled certain ways to advance their careers at Google due to a "culture that is hostile to women". "They are concerned that women are channeled to levels and positions that pay less than men with similar education and experience," Finberg was quoted as saying by guardian.com.

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This contributes to why California is broke.

Inhospitable environment for employers.

Companies that actually do something have been fleeing since the 80's.

Getting to be it's difficult to find anybody that knows which end of a screwdriver to hold.

Good going there!

When Google moves out.

The ones that won't relocate can get swell jobs in the customer service industry.

Translation. Minimum wage jobs.

They can all equally make next to nothing.

 

This contributes to why California is broke.

Inhospitable environment for employers.

Companies that actually do something have been fleeing since the 80's.

Getting to be it's difficult to find anybody that knows which end of a screwdriver to hold.

Good going there!

When Google moves out.

The ones that won't relocate can get swell jobs in the customer service industry.

Translation. Minimum wage jobs.

They can all equally make next to nothing.

I've been reading aobut the mass exodus from california since Trump became president.

They've even proposed trying to instate state laws to keep people and businesses from leaving and moving to other states.

The sad part is from everything I read about california the majority of their problems are coming from certain groups in power(that really don't deserve to have it) trying cater to a small minority of people at everyone's expense. The same issue google is dealing with now as well.

The needs and requirements of the functional majority are being taken away to give privilege to a dysfunctional minority that by far do not serve in a gainful enough contribution to things to be worth the fuss and sacrifices.

 

@nsaspook is that Fanne Foxe's granddaughter?

I know she's not related to Chesty Love ... lol

 

Joe Jester and NSA spook.

I had one wall of a 10x20 garage with shelves full of IBM PC's and accessories in the 90's.

Connection is. A lot of it was mint in the box Navy surplus.

Downsizing from '92 on.

I picked up from the 'Junk shops' in San Diego for a song. $20 and $30 and less.

Unused color monitors hard drives 5 meg and all kinds of stuff.

Lost interest and schools did not want them so

out by the dumpster they went.

In the real world. You couldn't really do anything with them.

One is good enough just to look at.

 

Joe Jester and NSA spook.

I had one wall of a 10x20 garage with shelves full of IBM PC's and accessories in the 90's.

Connection is. A lot of it was mint in the box Navy surplus.

Downsizing from '92 on.

I picked up from the 'Junk shops' in San Diego for a song. $20 and $30 and less.

Unused color monitors hard drives 5 meg and all kinds of stuff.

Lost interest and schools did not want them so

out by the dumpster they went.

In the real world. You couldn't really do anything with them.

One is good enough just to look at.

In the 1950s, my grandparents and I lived in Indian Springs, Nevada (home to what is now called Creech AFB), and my grandfather owned a grocery store that was patronized by workers from the base.

Some of the workers told him horror stories about how truckloads of new (and barely used) tools and hardware were hauled off to a landfill in the desert. They said the reason for simply disposing of all these good items was to clear out the inventory so they could buy more new items in the coming year!!! I've hear similar horror stories about the Navy dumping loads of new stuff overboard so they would have room for more new stuff to be dumped the next year!!!

The same thing goes on in most government agencies (like mass transit) where the new budget is based on the budget of the previous year. In other words, all the waste, fraud, and abuse of the previous year is incorporated into the new budget and the vicious circle keeps spinning!!!

Fiscal analysts have recommended something called a "Zero Based Balance" approach where the projected budget has to be calculated from scratch instead of simply recycling the data from the previous year. However, government is so bogged down by bureaucratic incompetency that it cannot think its way out of a problem and the only solution is to throw more money at the problem or cut services.

 

Glenn

'The same thing goes on in most government agencies (like mass transit) where the new budget is based on the budget of the previous year'

That's one piece of the puzzle.

Somebody that knew about that kind of thing told me also.

More spending and payroll growth increases the 'power' of the higher up's.

So that's a little goal of theirs.

'It's a wonderful world we live in. It's some exciting place.'-Oingo Boingo song

 

In the 1950s, my grandparents and I lived in Indian Springs, Nevada (home to what is now called Creech AFB), and my grandfather owned a grocery store that was patronized by workers from the base.

Some of the workers told him horror stories about how truckloads of new (and barely used) tools and hardware were hauled off to a landfill in the desert. They said the reason for simply disposing of all these good items was to clear out the inventory so they could buy more new items in the coming year!!! I've hear similar horror stories about the Navy dumping loads of new stuff overboard so they would have room for more new stuff to be dumped the next year!!!

The same thing goes on in most government agencies (like mass transit) where the new budget is based on the budget of the previous year. In other words, all the waste, fraud, and abuse of the previous year is incorporated into the new budget and the vicious circle keeps spinning!!!

Fiscal analysts have recommended something called a "Zero Based Balance" approach where the projected budget has to be calculated from scratch instead of simply recycling the data from the previous year. However, government is so bogged down by bureaucratic incompetency that it cannot think its way out of a problem and the only solution is to throw more money at the problem or cut services.

You'll see this behavior any time the accountability for cost control is displaced from those that have the authority to exercise it. Similar things can and do happen in large corporations, too, but it is moderated by the emphasis on profit seeking. There are certainly industries in which this is quite prevalent, but it is almost always for the same reason -- the profit is largely divorced from cost control.

When I was in the service more than three decades ago we routinely had to throw things out or purchase items we neither needed nor wanted precisely because the budget was use-it-or-lose-it and if we lost it for one year we wouldn't even get it the next. What really made it infuriating is that, because money can only be spent on the budget categories it is allocated for, we would literally be buying thousands of dollars in new office stuff, such as desks, chairs, and fancy magnetic wall calendars to replace stuff that was only a few years old and in mint condition, while at the exact same time we couldn't do our jobs because there was no money to purchase nuts, bolts, and O-rings for our bench stock. But, of course, this was by design. Every year they asked for more and more money for the unnecessary frivolous things but didn't fight for more money for the mission-essential things. Why? Well, when we ran out of money for the mission-essential stuff, they could go up the chain and claim that they needed additional funds in order to perform the mission -- and count on getting most of it.

That should sound familiar. Every year local and state governments play the exact same game. Why is it that they always need the voters to approve additional funds for fire, police, road maintenance, water system maintenance, school construction and repair -- all the essential missions that are their primary purpose -- yet they always have money for repainting government offices, putting in new flower beds around the government buildings, hosting parades and festivals, and sending government employees to overseas conferences?

 

The real story here is the re-occurrence of the robber barons. A little over one hundred years ago we had large, very wealthy monopolies. Lack of competition and innovation for the consumer is the reason to outlaw and break companies up. And regulate them. For the children. Actually the products were of high quality, inexpensive and readily available. That's why the companies got big.

Of course that's all a lie.......the real reason is the political influence the companies acquire......they are not bound by the Constitution like congress is. Congress has to compromise.....a company does not. Congress became envious.

Amazon, Apple, Google.......all the big high tech companies......are multitudes richer.......and have much more influence than the robber barons. And they just don't control a product. They control information.
These companies met with the Whitehouse, at least once a month.......for the last 8 years. Who knows who in congress they have.

The fix is in....too late to stop it.

 

This contributes to why California is broke.

Inhospitable environment for employers.

Companies that actually do something have been fleeing since the 80's.

Getting to be it's difficult to find anybody that knows which end of a screwdriver to hold.

Good going there!

When Google moves out.

The ones that won't relocate can get swell jobs in the customer service industry.

Translation. Minimum wage jobs.

They can all equally make next to nothing.

California is in fact very hospital to big businesses (and big labor groups) that have the $$$ to contribute to political officials like the city council or the board of supervisors and the state legislature.

However, if you're just an Average Joe and not part of one of these big money interests, you're "Do-Do Out Of Luck" and have to fend for yourself in the cold cruel world. I know of several machine shops in San Francisco that are thinking about closing and moving out of the state. People who actually make things and provide services that keep the city running are being crowded out by politically connected weeds who do nothing but soak up taxpayers $$$ and they lobby for even more goodies.

Case in point, my transit agency doesn't have enough mechanics and techs to keep the system running because it's too expensive to live in the city and it's too expensive to live outside the city and commute in to work.