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nsaspook

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https://s3.documentcloud.org/docume...aviation-investigation-preliminary-report.pdf
On January 5, 2024, about 1714 Pacific standard time, Alaska Airlines flight 1282, a Boeing
737-9, N704AL, returned to Portland International Airport (PDX), Portland, Oregon, after the left
mid exit door (MED) plug departed the airplane leading to a rapid decompression. The airplane
landed on runway 28L at PDX without further incident, and all occupants (2 flight
crewmembers, 4 cabin crewmembers, and 171 passengers) deplaned at the gate. Seven
passengers and one flight attendant received minor injuries. The flight was operated under
Title 14 Code of Federal Regulations(CFR) Part 121 as a scheduled domestic passenger flight
from PDX to Ontario, California (ONT).
Figure 1 below shows the location of the missing MED plug from inside and outside the
airplane. The separation of the MED plug from the airplane adversely affected the
pressurization performance of the airplane and the damage to the MED plug adversely
affected its structural strength, requiring replacement of the MED plug, resulting in a
classification of substantial damage in accordance with Title 49 CFR Part 830.
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nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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From the comments.
"It's not how much money they made selling the waste gas, but how much they saved not having to dispose of contaminated gas as hazardous waste... a win - win"
 

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cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
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I thought that the regulation of the aircraft activity mentioned in this article pertained exclusively to the federal government?:


“Zamperini Field is part of the national aviation system, and the ordinance contemplated today is not only illegal, but it would also shift flights to neighboring airports in the region,” the letter states. “To avoid the waste of taxpayer funds in defending actions that are federally preempted and that will require significant financial and staff resources to litigate law that is already well settled, the city should not pass the proposed ordinance.”
 
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WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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Looks like they almost made it. R.I.P., indeed. While there's no indication that the aircrew knowingly sacrificed themselves to save either their passengers or people on the ground, at least their families can take some comfort in the fact (at least as it appears now) that they managed to achieve both of those primary goals of any aircrew.

With a dual-engine failure, the two big potential culprits are birds and fuel issues (with others being possible, but less likely). While they are certainly going to confirm whether or not the aircraft took on sufficient fuel for the flight, from the size of the fireball, I'm guessing (and it's only a guess) that there was a fair amount of fuel onboard. So a key question will be whether there was a fuel-feed issue. Given the very short amount of time between the ATC transmission that was normal and the dual-engine failure announcement, I'm going to speculate that it really was a near-simultaneous dual failure and not a case of a single engine failure followed by the crew accidentally shutting down the good engine (which has happened more than once).
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/invest...rattack-suspected-iranian-spy-ship-rcna138638
U.S. conducted cyberattack on suspected Iranian spy ship
The covert operation was intended to inhibit the ship’s ability to share intelligence with Houthi rebels who have been attacking cargo ships in the Red Sea.
Depending on a few unknown factors, I might like to see the "three U.S. officials" that this is according to charged and imprisoned.

Part of the "unknown factors" is whether or not the leak to the press was officially sanctioned (which is often the case).
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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Depending on a few unknown factors, I might like to see the "three U.S. officials" that this is according to charged and imprisoned.

Part of the "unknown factors" is whether or not the leak to the press was officially sanctioned (which is often the case).
IMO it was very likely a sanctioned 'leak' as a public warning to Iran that we are reading your mail. (It should be no surprise to Iran we are doing that)

A cyber attack could range from a simple computer virus on commodity PC type machines to destruction of vital ship basic services with engineering control manipulations. The ship been mainly out of the shipping lanes for a while so it's likely they were spooked to the point Iran said, don't attack our ship.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...ning-suspected-spy-ship-us-strikes-rcna137150

Iran goes public with stark warning over suspected spy ship as U.S. refuses to rule out more strikes
A ship is an extension of a state’s sovereign territory, so an attack on an Iranian ship would technically be a direct attack on Iran, one expert said.
 
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