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WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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Depends on whether they mean it, or whether it's just more finger shaking. No way to know right now -- and that's a huge part of the problem. It's the Boy Who Cried Wolf syndrome. Don't make statements unless you are prepared to back them up, and back up statements that you make. Otherwise, no one takes a thing you say seriously and you end up in situations where you really are serious and a clear warning could have had the desired results but didn't because you've cried wolf too many times and you end up taking action that could have been avoided had your word been more credible.
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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nsaspook

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How does a bolted/latched door just fall off cleanly unless the bolts were missing, defective or were never latched correctly on a plane that started service only in Oct 2023?

 
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WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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How does a bolted/latched door just fall off cleanly unless the bolts were missing, defective or were never latched correctly on a plane that started service only in Oct 2023?
The initiating cause of the incident definitely needs to be investigated, but the door didn't just fall off, it was ripped of. The force on a door opened into the airstream at flight speed is enormous. Something is going to give -- and it was almost certainly designed to snap the bolts rather than rip the fuselage.
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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The initiating cause of the incident definitely needs to be investigated, but the door didn't just fall off, it was ripped of. The force on a door opened into the airstream at flight speed is enormous. Something is going to give -- and it was almost certainly designed to snap the bolts rather than rip the fuselage.
Ripped off (IMO implies out of the ordinary forces making it open), fell off, blows off, taken by aliens, it opened when it never should have. None of those things should have happened with a properly secured door, that likely, nobody has touched since it left the factory as a sealed, likely never to be opened interior panel.
“The doors are not activated on Alaska Airlines aircraft and are permanently ‘plugged,’” Flightradar24 said.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/06/boe...ter-alaska-airlines-door-blows-midflight.html
AIRLINES
FAA grounds more than 170 Boeing 737 Max 9s after section of Alaska Airlines plane blows out
 
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nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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I'm beginning to see what likely happened now. That 'exit' plug is spring loaded to push away from the air-frame when the plug four holding bolts shear, break or are loosened and fall out.
Doors in general.
more plug info
Alaska Airlines plane

The missing plug dropped over a populated area in the Portland metro. Hope they find it.
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https://www.kptv.com/2024/01/07/nts...d-officials-say-door-may-be-cedar-hills-area/
Homendy also said they will be working with the FBI and local police to search for the missing plug door.

“We believe from looking at radar data that the door is near Barnes Road near I-217 in the Cedar Hills neighborhood,” Homendy said. “If you find that, please please contact local law enforcement.”
 
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