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Glad I'm not a passenger
- Thread starter cmartinez
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I don't know what the laws might have been back then (or what they are now, for that matter). But, from a practical standpoint, how do you prevent someone that records radio transmissions from releasing them? You might have rules saying that parties that have access to those recordings as part of their routine duties (like ATC or the FBI or NTSB) can't release them, but in the day of everything being recorded by tens of thousands (or millions) of people with a receiver and internet connection, it's pretty much impossible to prevent.
I have no idea if this guy's data and simulation is accurate or not, but I find it amazing such a "recreation" can be done less than 24 hours after the crash. AI powered?
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The narration definitely sounds like AI. As for the simulation and video, that may or may not be. Tools have been around for a long time to take flight data (from sources such as FlightAware) and create animations like that, even in real time.
Interesting that the event lasted 76 seconds. There was a paper that the FAA came out with some three decades ago titled 73 seconds to live. Though there's no indication that the scenario applies, it had to do with how long it took for a non-instrument rated pilot that flew into instrument condition to crash. The did it with actual planes and pilots (with a safety pilot that took control once it was clear that the pilot wasn't going to be able to recover) and, on average, it was 73 seconds. It also included some of the hallmarks here, such as the steepening bank angle such that attempts to pull out only tighten the spiral. This is known as a death spiral and, while the initiating cause (spatial disorientation) was unlikely to be a factor here, the mechanics as things degraded may have been, either because the pilot was panicking (and who wouldn't) and neglecting basic airmanship or, my guess, that the aircraft was unable to respond to all of the control inputs. I don't know how a blocked air probe might have contributed. That's usually something where the pilots or autopilot, is making poor control inputs based on faulty data, which doesn't seem very likely here. But on that aircraft, it's possible the data from the probes are actively involved in control manipulation in a way that could have contributed.
Interesting that the event lasted 76 seconds. There was a paper that the FAA came out with some three decades ago titled 73 seconds to live. Though there's no indication that the scenario applies, it had to do with how long it took for a non-instrument rated pilot that flew into instrument condition to crash. The did it with actual planes and pilots (with a safety pilot that took control once it was clear that the pilot wasn't going to be able to recover) and, on average, it was 73 seconds. It also included some of the hallmarks here, such as the steepening bank angle such that attempts to pull out only tighten the spiral. This is known as a death spiral and, while the initiating cause (spatial disorientation) was unlikely to be a factor here, the mechanics as things degraded may have been, either because the pilot was panicking (and who wouldn't) and neglecting basic airmanship or, my guess, that the aircraft was unable to respond to all of the control inputs. I don't know how a blocked air probe might have contributed. That's usually something where the pilots or autopilot, is making poor control inputs based on faulty data, which doesn't seem very likely here. But on that aircraft, it's possible the data from the probes are actively involved in control manipulation in a way that could have contributed.
