Glad I'm not a passenger

spinnaker

Joined Oct 29, 2009
7,830
I am REALLY glad I was not a passenger. Can you imagine 8 hours of this?


The plane should have never left the gate with that kid sreaming like that. There could have easily been a riot on board. I would not have blamed someone one bit for punching out the father till he got control of his kid.
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
7,893
I am REALLY glad I was not a passenger. Can you imagine 8 hours of this?
Eight hours? I would not have lasted ten minuets with that monster. I would have been all over the airline as well as the mother who allowed this to continue. This is why there are pillows in the overhead compartments. You restrain the child and place a pillow over their face to muffle the sounds using just enough force to stop breathing, then hold firmly another few moments. Really, I would be all over the airline, mother and her brood should have been removed before takeoff.

Ron
 

MrAl

Joined Jun 17, 2014
13,728
Hello,

About the plane take off...

They just want to see what it takes to break the ear drums of all the passengers at take off due to the fast change of pressure during steep and fast inclines/declines :)

Happy Easter :)
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
7,893
Hello,

About the plane take off...

They just want to see what it takes to break the ear drums of all the passengers at take off due to the fast change of pressure during steep and fast inclines/declines :)

Happy Easter :)
Yes, and hope you are having a Happy & Enjoyable Easter right back. :)

Ron
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
16,372
I am REALLY glad I was not a passenger. Can you imagine 8 hours of this?


The plane should have never left the gate with that kid sreaming like that. There could have easily been a riot on board. I would not have blamed someone one bit for punching out the father till he got control of his kid.
That kids needs a Vodka Tonic to calm the demons.
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
32,991
I am REALLY glad I was not a passenger. Can you imagine 8 hours of this?

The plane should have never left the gate with that kid sreaming like that. There could have easily been a riot on board. I would not have blamed someone one bit for punching out the father till he got control of his kid.
Agreed!

Another all-too-common-case of parents that refuse to instill any semblance of discipline and proper behavior on their kids. In the unlikely case that they really have tried and the kid really is that unmanageable (and such kids DO exist) then the parents should realize and accept that their problems are not everyone else's problems and not take the kid on an airplane or to a movie theater or any place else where that kind of behavior is unacceptable.

My daughter acted like that in public exactly once (while with us -- I think she may have done so when she was living with her grandmother in Taiwan for a couple years). It was at a work July 4th party and, in fairness to her, she was only four at the time, she had been well-behaved most of the night, and it was WAY past her bed time. But when she wouldn't stop acting out after the second time she was told to shape up, she and I went on a little journey to the car where, after a pretty mild spanking (just so that she knew the threat was real) her and I both stayed in the car (missing the fireworks) both so as to let her know that such behavior will not go unpunished but, even more so, because the rest of the people at the party did not need to be subjected to her temper tantrum.
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
32,991
Gee, what a shocker!

People don't pay attention to those briefings or even look at the cards -- they "know" that nothing is going to happen. So is it surprising that they don't do things correctly when the time comes to actually do it?

But more than anything, that "news" clip shows how out of touch with reality the news people are -- they mention how people that are "too busy" to pay attention to the pre-flight safety briefing can go out to YouTube beforehand and watch the safety briefing. Uh... yeah... like that's gonna happen. Then they stress how this needs to be second nature. Uh... yeah... like that's gonna happen.

I've always paid attention to those in-flight briefings. If nothing else, as an acknowledgement and a show of respect to the cabin crew. I did that long before I became a pilot (albeit a lowly instrument-rated private one) and I do it even more religiously now. On several occasions I've had a flight attendant notice and quietly thank me at some point during the flight.

Each aircraft type, even different versions of the same model, is different. The first thing I do after I fasten the seat belt is pull out that card and read it. I look and make note of the nearest exits and also specifically look to see how each door on the aircraft is opened. I also look to see what kind of guidance indicators are provided to help me find that exit in a dark, smoke-filled tube. I KNOW that things can and do go wrong and, though I also know that the odds are overwhelmingly on the side of never having to use any of the information, I plan to be as prepared as I can reasonably be. Even so, that does not mean that I'm going to remember exactly how to open the over wing door when I'm trying to get it open in that dark, smoke-filled tube filled with screaming, panicked people. But it gives me at least a foot in that direction.

Now, having said that, they are making much ado bout nothing on the oxygen mask thing. Those one-size-fits-all masks are not meant to seal around your mouth and nose. They are meant to provide a flow of oxygen near your mouth and nose so that the air you are breathing in at the lower pressure has enough oxygen to keep you alive. Even people that just put the mask over their mouth are going to naturally breath through the mouth as a consequence -- after all, they know WHY they have this thing shoved up against their mouth.

A nose cannula is the most common oxygen system used by private pilots up to 18,000 ft. The main reasons they aren't allowed higher is because we are, after all, talking about the pilot of the aircraft who has to maintain full mental functionality. Plus, nose cannulas tend to let blood oxygen saturation levels drop significantly as the person talks. But for a passenger in an airliner, a nose cannula (if they were allowed and if you could trust a passenger to actually put it on correctly) would probably suffice.
 

atferrari

Joined Jan 6, 2004
5,018
The plane should have never left the gate with that kid sreaming like that. There could have easily been a riot on board. I would not have blamed someone one bit for punching out the father till he got control of his kid.
People I know, who lives in Australia, was not allowed to board the plane with their kid (autist) who was suffering kind of an unmanageable rage attack.

Hard to sustain but fair to the rest. A short voyage from there to UK. Imagine that.
 
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