Ghosts

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djsfantasi

Joined Apr 11, 2010
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Anyone think they have seen a ghost?

I was looking at a house for sale. The previous owner was a hoarder. There was only a narrow pathway everywhere throughout the house.

I was in the attic, which was stuffed with antique children's toys. Suddenly, in the corner, I saw a grandmotherly looking figure and a chill came across the room This was about 2006.
 

GopherT

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Anyone think they have seen a ghost?

I was looking at a house for sale. The previous owner was a hoarder. There was only a narrow pathway everywhere throughout the house.

I was in the attic, which was stuffed with antique children's toys. Suddenly, in the corner, I saw a grandmotherly looking figure and a chill came across the room This was about 2006.
It took 11 years for you to start talking about it?

Define ghost (are you talking about only something your eyes actually see or are you including something that your mind create (e.g. possibly "noise" between your retina and brain))
 
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nsaspook

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I've seen many 'ghosts' but don't believe in spiritual 'ghosts'. The shape of a dust cloud in a dim room can easily cause the brain to construct a familiar mental image and cause biological changes from fear or surprise. People 'see' things that are not there all the time.
 

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djsfantasi

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It took 11 years for you to start talking about it?

Define ghost.
Ghost - a visible manifestation of a human figure, in motion and in a non-physical form as to where the properties of a physical being do not exist.

Ghostlike activities refer to physical manifestations with no demonstrable cause. The last is important, because there exists people who can creste such events and successfully conceal any cause.
 

spinnaker

Joined Oct 29, 2009
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Anyone think they have seen a ghost?

I was looking at a house for sale. The previous owner was a hoarder. There was only a narrow pathway everywhere throughout the house.

I was in the attic, which was stuffed with antique children's toys. Suddenly, in the corner, I saw a grandmotherly looking figure and a chill came across the room This was about 2006.

Where you consuming and / or smoking any "adult substances" at the time?
 

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djsfantasi

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Kind friends -- Politics is (so much more) than enough! -- Please! Let's not embark upon religious discussion as well:(

"While it hasn't gone very far - it's probably gone far enough" -- Frank Thornton (paraphrase?)

At your mercy
HP
Interestingly, I do not consider the subject of ghosts to be a religious topic at all. Just an abnormal experience. No religious connotations intended.
 

Hypatia's Protege

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Interestingly, I do not consider the subject of ghosts to be a religious topic at all. Just an abnormal experience. No religious connotations intended.
And no accusation intended!:oops::) --- That said, I hold the notion of 'life after death' or, more precisely, "extra-corporal human consciousness" to constitute 'religion'...

Absolutely no slight intended!

Very best regards
HP:)

PS - To be clear: I believe in the dichotomy of mind and body to the extent of accepting same as fact -- even as I hold strong political views --- My dubiety owes not to the validity of such beliefs/views but, rather, to the appropriacy of discussion of same on these fora!:)
 
Well hey! I won't be a pain in the 'backside':oops: - I've voiced my concern - So I'll now 'duck out' - and with a clear conscience in the bargain!:cool:

Very best regards
HP:)
 

shortbus

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I've seen one. In a previous house I lived in. Not only did I see it but my dog did too, a doberman that was not afraid of anything, but she was trying to get under the bed, it was a water bed so she knew she couldn't do it but was still trying. the ghost was only an upper torso of a person and was between the door way and the bed so she was doing the only thing she could.
 

nsaspook

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https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...hy-some-people-see-ghosts-and-other-presences
Some of the most compelling descriptions of sensed presences come from lone sailors who have experienced hallucinations and out-of-body experiences. In one famous incident, Joshua Slocum, the first person to circumnavigate the globe single-handedly, swore that he saw and spoke with the pilot of Columbus’s ship the Pinta. He claimed that the pilot steered his boat through heavy weather as Slocum lay ill with food poisoning. Many other startling, vivid examples of such apparitions reported by sailors, mountain climbers, and polar explorers are described in a 1987 article by Suedfeld and Mocellin. These include recurring reports by polar explorers that they felt as if someone was following them on their treks; Mt. Everest climbers stranded in snow holes hallucinating rescuers; and survivors of sinking ships counting extra persons in their lifeboats.
There are really only three possibilities:

  1. The event really happened, just as the person has reported.
  2. The person truly believes that the event has happened, but it has not.
  3. The person is fabricating a story for some reason.
The best we can do under the circumstances is to evaluate the relative probability of each of these options and choose the one that appears most likely.
 

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djsfantasi

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I disagree with one aspect of the article to which you linked. There is a fourth possibility that could have occurred. It is this possibility to which I attribute my experience.

There is some naturally occurring phenonomen to which the observer had perceived incorrectly, said perception being perfectly valid albeit flawed.

In my case, the area has a large population of squirrels. They often gnaw into the homes and just as often build nests in empty spaces, such as an attic. Squirrel activity in the attic could have dislodged dust from the ceiling, as in the house described had copious amounts of same. I was in a room which had evoked memories of my childhood and my grandmother in particular. Said mental activity could have caused me to perceive notes of dust as a ghost. And to me, it was extremely real. And so I believe.
 

nsaspook

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I disagree with one aspect of the article to which you linked. There is a fourth possibility that could have occurred. It is this possibility to which I attribute my experience.

There is some naturally occurring phenonomen to which the observer had perceived incorrectly, said perception being perfectly valid albeit flawed.

In my case, the area has a large population of squirrels. They often gnaw into the homes and just as often build nests in empty spaces, such as an attic. Squirrel activity in the attic could have dislodged dust from the ceiling, as in the house described had copious amounts of same. I was in a room which had evoked memories of my childhood and my grandmother in particular. Said mental activity could have caused me to perceive notes of dust as a ghost. And to me, it was extremely real. And so I believe.
That would be really be #2 because it wasn't a real ghost.

"Suddenly, in the corner, I saw a grandmotherly looking figure and a chill came across the room"
 

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djsfantasi

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That would be really be #2 because it wasn't a real ghost.

"Suddenly, in the corner, I saw a grandmotherly looking figure and a chill came across the room"
'K. I make a distinction. The quote says nothing about "a real ghost". It says event. As I described an event, a "real" event did occur.
 
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