prairiemystic
- Joined Jun 5, 2018
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As far as misfire detection, they did use spark plug tip ion detection for a few years but abandoned it.
Modern car ECU's look at crankshaft velocity in order to detect misfires. Typically a 60 tooth crankshaft sensor reveals that crankshaft speed is not constant - it actually dips down during a compression stroke, and dips up during a power stroke. It's very interesting to look at the speed (ripple). The flywheel smooths it out a bit. Just looking, comparing peak-peak values.
But that crank sensor is likely not there and not sure how hard to attach one or find a gear.
Ignition Trouble Codes (DTC) are done by looking at primary voltage. An ignition coil is a transformer after all, say 1:85 turns ratio, so a max. of about 385V could ever be seen (disconnected spark plug, very bad).
You will first see the firing line, to inititate the arc (not useful) - then the burn.
If the arc voltage is too high (plugs worn, have too big a gap or resistor fail)
If the arc voltage is too low (low compression, plugs have too small a gap, insulation breakdown etc.)
If the arc time is too brief (problem with the igniter, short dwell etc.)
If the arc time is too long (problem with insulation breakdown etc. )
The burn time is measured. So you are looking at the spark energy (voltage and burn-time product) to see if the ignition system is within a window where all is OK, otherwise set an OBD trouble code including the cylinder #.
I think you could make a circuit (like a tach) that monitors coil primary voltage and gives you average (plateau) firing voltage and spark duration, all the while you are going for a drive.
Distributorless or wasted-spark systems would be a lot more work. It's faster to just swap out parts instead of troubleshooting sometimes.
Modern car ECU's look at crankshaft velocity in order to detect misfires. Typically a 60 tooth crankshaft sensor reveals that crankshaft speed is not constant - it actually dips down during a compression stroke, and dips up during a power stroke. It's very interesting to look at the speed (ripple). The flywheel smooths it out a bit. Just looking, comparing peak-peak values.
But that crank sensor is likely not there and not sure how hard to attach one or find a gear.
Ignition Trouble Codes (DTC) are done by looking at primary voltage. An ignition coil is a transformer after all, say 1:85 turns ratio, so a max. of about 385V could ever be seen (disconnected spark plug, very bad).
You will first see the firing line, to inititate the arc (not useful) - then the burn.
If the arc voltage is too high (plugs worn, have too big a gap or resistor fail)
If the arc voltage is too low (low compression, plugs have too small a gap, insulation breakdown etc.)
If the arc time is too brief (problem with the igniter, short dwell etc.)
If the arc time is too long (problem with insulation breakdown etc. )
The burn time is measured. So you are looking at the spark energy (voltage and burn-time product) to see if the ignition system is within a window where all is OK, otherwise set an OBD trouble code including the cylinder #.
I think you could make a circuit (like a tach) that monitors coil primary voltage and gives you average (plateau) firing voltage and spark duration, all the while you are going for a drive.
Distributorless or wasted-spark systems would be a lot more work. It's faster to just swap out parts instead of troubleshooting sometimes.