Gas Engine Ignition Misfire Detector

As far as misfire detection, they did use spark plug tip ion detection for a few years but abandoned it.

Modern car ECU's look at crankshaft velocity in order to detect misfires. Typically a 60 tooth crankshaft sensor reveals that crankshaft speed is not constant - it actually dips down during a compression stroke, and dips up during a power stroke. It's very interesting to look at the speed (ripple). The flywheel smooths it out a bit. Just looking, comparing peak-peak values.
But that crank sensor is likely not there and not sure how hard to attach one or find a gear.

Ignition Trouble Codes (DTC) are done by looking at primary voltage. An ignition coil is a transformer after all, say 1:85 turns ratio, so a max. of about 385V could ever be seen (disconnected spark plug, very bad).

You will first see the firing line, to inititate the arc (not useful) - then the burn.
If the arc voltage is too high (plugs worn, have too big a gap or resistor fail)
If the arc voltage is too low (low compression, plugs have too small a gap, insulation breakdown etc.)
If the arc time is too brief (problem with the igniter, short dwell etc.)
If the arc time is too long (problem with insulation breakdown etc. )

The burn time is measured. So you are looking at the spark energy (voltage and burn-time product) to see if the ignition system is within a window where all is OK, otherwise set an OBD trouble code including the cylinder #.


I think you could make a circuit (like a tach) that monitors coil primary voltage and gives you average (plateau) firing voltage and spark duration, all the while you are going for a drive.
Distributorless or wasted-spark systems would be a lot more work. It's faster to just swap out parts instead of troubleshooting sometimes.
 

LowQCab

Joined Nov 6, 2012
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Those SUN instruments are indeed good,
BUT neither small nor especially portable.
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I was being facetious, I guess it wasn't obvious enough,
"fixing" an Ignition problem is not really very practical.

All Ignition-parts MUST be in good working order,
if they are not,
they should ALL be replaced, at the same time, with brand-new parts.

Replacing one Spark-Plug-Wire is an absurdity.
Replacing the Distributor-Rotor, and not replacing the Distributor-Cap is likewise an absurdity, etc., etc..
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MisterBill2

Joined Jan 23, 2018
27,558
There are also lean misfires and valve float misfires that are not related to the spark plug. And on fuel injection systems there may be an occasional injector issue. And 2-stroke engines can have some unique problems of their own, related to tuned induction schemes. (motorcycle engines, mostly)
 
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