Failed jump start

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nicksv

Joined Nov 22, 2019
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There is also a recommended way of removing/changing a battery.
Always remove the negative lead first.!
And connect it last.
This is in the event that when removing the positive post connection, if the wrench contacts chassis accidentally, there is no melted wrench!
Max.
Aha, i have alot to learn . :oops: Then i probably did kill it my self :confused:

But what a nice forum, you guys are very friendly :)
 

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nicksv

Joined Nov 22, 2019
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i'm such a dumbass, replied to the wrong posts, sorry. Hope you can figure out what posts i should have replied too :oops:
 

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nicksv

Joined Nov 22, 2019
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Either way, you have all been very helpfull and i appreciate all the input, i have learned more than what i initially was hoping for, you guys are awesome
 

AlbertHall

Joined Jun 4, 2014
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It could be worse than that if the battery welded the wrench to the chassis and the battery exploded before you correct the situation.
I saw a guy drop a spanner scross the battery terminals. It glowed a nice bright yellow, bent upwards in the middle and flew across the car park. Happily it didn't hit anything along the way.
 

dl324

Joined Mar 30, 2015
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oh i did not even know theres a corrent order :oops:
I had allready connected both jumpers on my car before heconnected the possitive on his car to the possitve on my car, and then also possitive on his car, to negative on my car. And his car was running the whole time :oops:
The pair of jumper cables I put in my Wife's car had polarity indicators and came apart in the middle so you could connect each half to a vehicle. Before you connected the two halves together, you made sure that both ends were connected right. This assumed that the battery being jumped had enough juice to light an LED.
 

dl324

Joined Mar 30, 2015
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I saw a guy drop a spanner scross the battery terminals. It glowed a nice bright yellow, bent upwards in the middle and flew across the car park.
When I was a teenager, I set a metal socket wrench case too close to the battery and it got bumped on to the terminals. I was able to yank it off of the battery terminals, but there was a hole in it. 45 years later, I still have it and it reminds me of that accident that could have turned out worse.
 

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nicksv

Joined Nov 22, 2019
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The pair of jumper cables I put in my Wife's car had polarity indicators and came apart in the middle so you could connect each half to a vehicle. Before you connected the two halves together, you made sure that both ends were connected right. This assumed that the battery being jumped had enough juice to light an LED.
That is pretty smart, do you know what they are called or what brand they are? I should really just have bought a start booster battery thing, cause i have had this problem a couple of times, or just replaced my alternator, but either way it's good to have jumper cables, if everything else fails
 

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nicksv

Joined Nov 22, 2019
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When I was a teenager, I set a metal socket wrench case too close to the battery and it got bumped on to the terminals. I was able to yank it off of the battery terminals, but there was a hole in it. 45 years later, I still have it and it reminds me of that accident that could have turned out worse.
was it bare metal case or was it one of the painted ones? Don't really know what they was like 45 years ago :)
"only" 32 years old :D
 

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nicksv

Joined Nov 22, 2019
15
I saw a guy drop a spanner scross the battery terminals. It glowed a nice bright yellow, bent upwards in the middle and flew across the car park. Happily it didn't hit anything along the way.
did it suddenly kind of explode, or how did it fly off? Sounds pretty scary :S
 

dl324

Joined Mar 30, 2015
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That is pretty smart, do you know what they are called or what brand they are?
It was in a breakdown kit that Shell (I think) was selling (edit: 4 decades ago). It came with a rope, electrical tape, bailing wire, flares, and a couple other things. Still have it. It's in the trunk of my Son's car.

I should really just have bought a start booster battery thing
Just be aware that some are better than others. My Wife bought me one from Costco that was supposed to be able to jump a dead battery. I tried on our minivan that had been sitting for years and it couldn't start it. Then I bought one from Harbor Freight and it has been able to jump start several vehicles that I let sit for years at a time. I liked that one so much that I bought one for my Daughter and another for her boyfriend.

The Costo unit can jump a vehicle with a weak battery, but not dead. So it's in my Wife's vehicle that's new enough that we haven't had any problems with it (yet).
 

dl324

Joined Mar 30, 2015
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was it bare metal case or was it one of the painted ones? Don't really know what they was like 45 years ago :)
"only" 32 years old :D
It was painted red, but enough of the paint had been scraped away for it to be able to short the battery.
 

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nicksv

Joined Nov 22, 2019
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It was in a breakdown kit that Shell (I think) was selling (edit: 4 decades ago). It came with a rope, electrical tape, bailing wire, flares, and a couple other things. Still have it. It's in the trunk of my Son's car.

Just be aware that some are better than others. My Wife bought me one from Costco that was supposed to be able to jump a dead battery. I tried on our minivan that had been sitting for years and it couldn't start it. Then I bought one from Harbor Freight and it has been able to jump start several vehicles that I let sit for years at a time. I liked that one so much that I bought one for my Daughter and another for her boyfriend.

The Costo unit can jump a vehicle with a weak battery, but not dead. So it's in my Wife's vehicle that's new enough that we haven't had any problems with it (yet).
Okay, either way i probably could find some better ones with failsafes than the ones i have, the ones i have are some really old ones that my dad had, but i figured there had not been much improvement to jumper cables. And i'm even sort of a pack rat when it comes to car emergency and none emergency stuff, with tire repair kit, pump,all kinds of tools, window stone chip repair kit and what not. Has to be prepared when i drive a peugeot, and on top of that maybe not the best at maintenence.

I was looking at one of the batteryless super capacitor ones, But then i watched a youtube video from a channel called project farm. He did a battery boost test, and did not have much luck with the super capacitor one, and i guess with time, even when rarely used, super capacitors maybe also go bad. Just very smart when it works :D
 
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nicksv

Joined Nov 22, 2019
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Okay, either way i probably could find some better ones with failsafes than the ones i have, the ones i have are some really old ones that my dad had, but i figured there had not been much approvement to jumper cables. And i'm even sort of a pack rat when it comes to car emergency and none emergency stuff, with tire repair kit, pump,all kinds of tools, window stone chip repair kit and what not. Has to be prepared when i drive a peugeot, and on top of that maybe not the best at maintenence.

I was looking at one of the batteryless super capacitor ones, But then i watched a youtube video from a channel called project farm. He did a battery boost test, and did not have much luck with the super capacitor one, and i guess with time, even when rarely used, super capacitors maybe also go bad. Just very smart when it works :D
If most of you are from USA or Amerika you probably haven't encountered many Peugeot's, but they ain't famous for their great reliability :D
Not that with my amount of maintenence, i can't really complain :oops:
 

dl324

Joined Mar 30, 2015
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Okay, either way i probably could find some better ones with failsafes than the ones i have,
These jumpers on Amazon claim to be able to indicate reversed connections, but I don't see how they can work because they don't have a switch to close after making the correct connections. Didn't see any instructions...
 

SamR

Joined Mar 19, 2019
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Lot's of crap jumper cables out there, most in fact. Look for at least 2AWG copper preferably with silicone rubber insulation. Won't melt like plastic. Pay particular attention to how the clamps are connected to the cable, some are really crappy even with good wire. At least 15' long and 20-25' can get you from behind a car parked nose-first in a slot to its battery. Not cheap but compared to a road service call can pay for itself the first time used. The home-brew gold standard used to be good quality replacement bolt-on clamps from the parts store and old 2/0 welding cable. It is very small-stranded cable making it very flexible compared to the store-bought ones. Leaving them in the garage doesn't work when your battery (or someone else's) dies on the road so put them in the trunk.
 

MaxHeadRoom

Joined Jul 18, 2013
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If most of you are from USA or Amerika you probably haven't encountered many Peugeot's, but they ain't famous for their great reliability :D
Being originally from the UK, I remember a few.
Evidently the original Peugeot company was founded in 1810 under Napoleon's Empire, and manufactured coffee mills and bicycles. They stopped selling in N.A. in late 90's.
Incidentally that is how the Morris car Co (BMC) in UK started, Making and repairing bicycles. The name MG stood for Morris Garage, where they built their first car.
A little trivia.:cool:
Max.

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