My post was not designed to give a snarky response.
But it did elicit your usual humble response.

Sure, Ha Ha. A humble response that was right on target.

 

Sure, Ha Ha. A humble response that was right on target.

And another humble response.

 

And another humble response.

As you well know I'm not a humble person and have never pretended to be one, so no shocker if I express my honest feeling about something.

I usually don't try to hide my feelings or put up a facade of being nice. Respect is earned and I don't care about respect.

 

As you well know I'm not a humble person

Quite apparent.

I usually don't try to hide my feelings or put up a facade of being nice.

Also obvious.
But with many people it's not a facade.

Respect is earned.

Good luck with that.

 

Good luck with that.

DEI includes the non-nice.

"Respect is earned and I don't care about respect"
So I'm good with that.

 

https://www.reuters.com/business/au...rter-deliveries-miss-expectations-2024-04-02/
Tesla quarterly deliveries fall for the first time in nearly four years

https://www.reuters.com/business/au...itle-tesla-after-q1-sales-decline-2024-04-02/
BYD hands back top EV seller title to Tesla after Q1 sales decline

Sales of its purely electric models hit 139,902 in March, a 36.3% increase year-on-year, while sales of plug-in hybrids rose 56.4% to 161,729 units.

 

I think plug-in hybrids are just a stop-gap until the range anxiety of having a full electric is largely alleviated by larger capacity batteries and/or more fast charging stations.

 

While with gasoline/diesel vehicles, there are an average of 3,384 fires per year out of a total of 4.4 million vehicles, a fire rate of 1 in 1,300.

Wait a minute, where did this statistic come from? There are a lot more than 4.4 million gas and diesel powered vehicles in the U.S. or any other large country.

 

I think plug-in hybrids are just a stop-gap until the range anxiety of having a full electric is largely alleviated by larger capacity batteries and/or more fast charging stations.

I think you're right but who really knows how wide and long that gap will remain. A lot of people are deciding that the smaller battery car for mostly urban driving makes sense today if there is a fall-back to more range when needed. Daily level one charging can keep it in EV mode with public level 2 charging being an option for a quick energy top-off.

One of the main benefits of plug-in hybrids is that most day-to-day driving can be done in an electric-only mode, traveling on battery power alone between 10-50+ miles with the capability of 300+ miles in gasoline-electric hybrid mode. Factoring in access to public and workplace charging, you can potentially double your all-electric range on a daily basis.

https://driveclean.ca.gov/plug-in-hybrid

Benefits

• Fun to drive
• Quiet when in electric driving mode
• Quick off the line
• Convenient to recharge
• Reduced trips to the gas station
• High-tech
• Cheaper to operate
• Reduced pollution
• Access to carpool lanes and other incentives
• Fuel with gas when going on longer trips

https://www.consumerreports.org/car...-in-hybrid-vehicle-right-for-you-a9339147016/
Why a Plug-In Hybrid May Be the Right Car for You
PHEVs run on electric power for shorter drives but can switch to gas for longer trips, so you don't need to stop and recharge

 

Wait a minute, where did this statistic come from?

Is this better?

 

I think you're right but who really knows how wide and long that gap will remain.

You mean no one can predict the future??
I am so disappointed.

A lot of people are deciding that the smaller battery car for mostly urban driving makes sense today if there is a fall-back to more range when needed.

Can't argue with that.
I just want to be rid of the complexity and maintenance required for an IC engine.

 

 

You mean no one can predict the future??
I am so disappointed.
Can't argue with that.
I just want to be rid of the complexity and maintenance required for an IC engine.

There are predictions, projections and forecasting. It's not all just guessing, “Projections” are created based on numbers and facts that change as the numbers and facts change.

I've have a 2008 Honda Pilot. The Honda ICE VTEC engine is bullet-proof (up/down mountains with good fuel efficiency and very low emissions) to at least several hundred thousand miles with only A level maintenance with at least 300,000 for the normal expected engine life. (you see the rusted out, falling apart, fart-mobile Hondas with the engine still going strong) The trade IMO will be for modern electrical/electronic system complexity and part swapping maintenance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VTEC

 

with only A level maintenance

It's that A-level oil change, cooling system coolant and hose replacement, transmission oil replacement, belt replacement, etc., that I'm referring to and want to avoid.

 

It's that A-level oil change, cooling system coolant and hose replacement, transmission oil replacement, belt replacement, etc., that I'm referring to and want to avoid.

They require less maintenance, not none. You still have cooling systems with hoses, brakes and braking systems with a complex system of hoses that includes a radiator and radiator fluid.

 

Okay, I didn't know that most EV's have a liquid cooling system for the batteries and motors.
But that's one out of the four I mentioned.

 

Okay, I didn't know that most EV's have a liquid cooling system for the batteries and motors.
But that's one out of the four I mentioned.

It totally depends on quality. I have zero faith in the long-term reliability of the Chinese EV market cars. My 16yo Honda TCO as been low but I'm about in invest a grand for timing belts and internal motor checks from the Honda dealership I bought it from new off the showroom. They might even 'trick' me into another car so I can give the old one to my kid in school.

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/volkswagen-electric-car-sales-plunge-122915038.html
Volkswagen electric car sales plunge as Europe returns to petrol

Volkswagen’s EV sales are also coming under pressure as European carmakers face growing competition from an influx of new China-made electric cars. Brands such as BYD offer battery-powered cars at a cheaper price point that Western rivals.

The EU has launched an investigation into the subsidies being offered to Chinese carmakers by Beijing. Experts at Germany’s Kiel Institute estimate that BYD alone has received more than €3.4bn (£2.9bn) in Chinese subsidies in recent years, Bloomberg reported on Wednesday.

 

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/04/ban-chinese-electric-vehicles-now-demands-us-senator/
“Ban Chinese electric vehicles now,” demands US senator

Influential US Senator Sherrod Brown (D–Ohio) has called on US President Joe Biden to ban electric vehicles from Chinese brands. Brown calls Chinese EVs "an existential threat" to the US automotive industry and says that allowing imports of cheap EVs from Chinese brands "is inconsistent with a pro-worker industrial policy."

Brown's letter to the president is the most recent to sound alarms about the threat of heavily subsidized Chinese EVs moving into established markets. Brands like BYD and MG have been on sale in the European Union for some years now, and last October, the EU launched an anti-subsidy investigation into whether the Chinese government is giving Chinese brands an unfair advantage.

I'm less worried about cost than quality, reliability and safety.

Those deep discounts are coming from lower quality of parts too.

 

Those deep discounts are coming from lower quality of parts too.

Yes, China is not known for the high quality of their exports.