I've heard nevertheless used, My Canadiana has a few subtleties.

Nevertheless is also a one-worder on this side of the border.

 

At the top of the page, Google says it searched for nonetheless....

My Google must be broken. It's only finding typos of nonetheless.

It's quite dependent on various google settings.

Here is my search when I set locale to UK or Australia:




And here if I change it to USA:



Only a slight change, but different nonetheless.

 

Thanks captain, but please show all (any) of the foreign language examples that use this term. I used quotes and searched Google of several non-English language countries. Good luck.

I think one is sufficient to prove me point.

 

Ooh, you found Shabdkosh.com listing too. I clicked on it and found a whole page of weird ads, on Shabdkosh.com - no definition. There was nothing on the link about non the less on that website. Keep trying if you want but my Python web scraping script came up with nothing except obvious typos/missed keystrokes (non theless).

 

Is anything in English quite so daft as deciding arbitrarily whether every noun is masculine or feminine?
as in die Katze (feminine in German) or le chat (masculine in French) for example?

 

ghoti is pronounced FISH!

 

Is anything in English quite so daft as deciding arbitrarily whether every noun is masculine or feminine?
as in die Katze (feminine in German) or le chat (masculine in French) for example?

It wouldn't be quite so daft if it weren't 2022 and anything that lends credence to the concept of gender shunned. But yeah, I don't see much added benefit to it.

 

ghoti is pronounced FISH!

Per Wikipedia, an alternative pronunciation of ghoti is, nothing. Thst is, it can be silent word.
https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghoti

 

Nevertheless is also a one-worder on this side of the border.

I've been procrastinating on signing up for the CELP (Canadian English Language Proficiency), but this will help get me off my butt. I need it as a prerequisite for a couple of professional certifications.

 

@GetDeviceInfo
Eh, sorry but dōn ferget ya godda getta Canadian-English to American-English translation dictionary, ok? Ya know dars a lotta words dat 're differnt.

 

A very interesting article about the evolution of English. If a pop up blocks the view, just open it in an incognito window:

A New English Dialect Is Emerging in South Florida, Linguists Say

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One bilingual confluence famously changed the trajectory of the English language. In 1066, the Norman French, led by William the Conqueror, invaded England in an event now known as “the Norman Conquest.”
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During this period, more than 10,000 loanwords from French entered the English language, mostly in domains where the aristocracy held sway: the arts, military, medicine, law and religion. Words that today seem basic, even fundamental, to English vocabulary were, just 800 years ago, borrowed from French: prince, government, administer, liberty, court, prayer, judge, justice, literature, music, poetry, to name just a few.

 

nice subject...

language is ever evolving and nothing will change that. and English is not alone - every language has its own quirks, odd, curious, funny or confusing things. it can be quite entertaining in movies and literature.

i like German for many reasons, including things like seemingly endless concatenation of words. also some of the words are pretty funny - one of the cutest is Schieldkröte aka "an armored toad" but others may relate to Feuchtfröhlich (wet and happy - aka presently drunk). then there are so many "stuff/thing" words ('zeug'):
Spielzeug = play thing (toy)
Werkzeug = work thing (tool)
Schreibzeug = write thingy (writing utensil)
Firezeug = fire thingy (lighter)
Fahrzeug = drive thing (car)
Flugzeug = flying thing (an aircraft)
Schlagzeug (drum)
etc.

i guess English does similar with *craft words (watercraft, aircraft...) but in German it sounds more interesting.

 

Why English Is So Difficult

We'll begin with a box, and the plural is boxes;
but the plural of ox became oxen not oxes.
One fowl is a goose, but two are called geese,
yet the plural of moose should never be meese.
You may find a lone mouse or a nest full of mice;
yet the plural of house is houses, not hice.

If the plural of man is always called men,
why shouldn't the plural of pan be called pen?
If I spoke of my foot and show you my feet,
and I give you a boot, would a pair be called beet?
If one is a tooth and a whole set are teeth,
why shouldn't the plural of booth be called beeth?
Then one may be that, and three would be those,
yet hat in the plural would never be hose,
and the plural of cat is cats, not cose.

We speak of a brother and also of brethren,
but though we say mother we never say methren.
Then the masculine pronouns are he, his and him,
but imagine the feminine, she, shis and shim.

 

i married my shim

 

Why English Is So Difficult

We'll begin with a box, and the plural is boxes;
but the plural of ox became oxen not oxes.
One fowl is a goose, but two are called geese,
yet the plural of moose should never be meese.
You may find a lone mouse or a nest full of mice;
yet the plural of house is houses, not hice.

If the plural of man is always called men,
why shouldn't the plural of pan be called pen?
If I spoke of my foot and show you my feet,
and I give you a boot, would a pair be called beet?
If one is a tooth and a whole set are teeth,
why shouldn't the plural of booth be called beeth?
Then one may be that, and three would be those,
yet hat in the plural would never be hose,
and the plural of cat is cats, not cose.

We speak of a brother and also of brethren,
but though we say mother we never say methren.
Then the masculine pronouns are he, his and him,
but imagine the feminine, she, shis and shim.

From what I remember from school - it seems a lot simpler than plurals in German.

 

A New English Dialect Is Emerging in South Florida

I didn't think they even spoke English anymore in Miami!

 

People Are Just Now Learning What The End Of Bread Is Called


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In an informal survey conducted on Reddit by a self-described "bread enthusiast", the most popular name was the heel, picked by 37 percent of respondents. Next up was "the end" at 28 percent, then "the butt" at 20 percent, and "the crust" at 13 percent.

 

People Are Just Now Learning What The End Of Bread Is Called
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I have listened to people say heel or butt. Heel the prefered.

kv

 

People Are Just Now Learning What The End Of Bread Is Called
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I've only heard it referred to as the heel. But, like "soda", "pop", "soda pop", or "coke", it all depends on what is common in a particular locality. I think the headline claim that people are somehow just now learning what it is called is sensationalistic tripe.

 

??? Who'da thunk it? Everybody knows it's the heel! Amazing what kids don't know today. Do they even still eat bread? A childhood without PBJ sandwiches is a childhood not lived! I had a long online discourse with a guy from Norway on how to make a PBJ sandwich. He had found some peanut butter somewhere but the catch was trying to explain grape jelly to him. All he could find in his market was lingon jelly...