Does laptop bias audio input?

Alec_t

Joined Sep 17, 2013
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The laptop supplies, via a series resistor, a supply voltage required by the FET inside a typical electret microphone.
The usual jack is for both input and output.
 
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Ramussons

Joined May 3, 2013
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If it's an Mic Input, YES, there is a DC Bias.
If it's an Output, NO.

If it's an Line Input (Laptops normally don't have this, Desktops have it), NO
 

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goutham1995

Joined Feb 18, 2018
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If it's an Mic Input, YES, there is a DC Bias.
If it's an Output, NO.

If it's an Line Input (Laptops normally don't have this, Desktops have it), NO
Well then if I give input to my laptop which exceeds this bias voltage through a headphone jack, what happens?
 

Ramussons

Joined May 3, 2013
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Never tried this experiment, but there are 2 possibilities:

1) You burn out the Bias Resistor inside the laptop - so you cannot use a "Electrec" or "Condensor" mic; but you can still feed a low (1 mV) Mono signal for recording.

2) You puncture the DC blocking capacitor inside the laptop and Damage the Audio Chip; maybe other components depending on what voltage is being fed.
 

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goutham1995

Joined Feb 18, 2018
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Why do you want to apply an input to the output jack? o_O
I'm actually building a circuit where I want to be able to record the signal variations when I hit a piezoelectric sensor on audacity. I'm using op amp in inverting amplifier configuration with DC offset of Vcc/2 to allow complete voltage swing. I want to feed this output to input of laptop using audio jack. My circuit is in the attachment. The input is signal from piezoelectric sensor.
 

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Alec_t

Joined Sep 17, 2013
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If you're hitting a piezo transducer I think you'll find you don't need the amplifier. In fact, you'll probably have to attenuate the signal to avoid over-driving the laptop input.
 

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goutham1995

Joined Feb 18, 2018
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If you're hitting a piezo transducer I think you'll find you don't need the amplifier. In fact, you'll probably have to attenuate the signal to avoid over-driving the laptop input.
Okay. But I want to know what is the bias voltage used in laptop and what happens if we exceed it? Does the signal variations from the piezo superimpose over the bias from laptop or does it get clipped off if it exceeds?
 

Audioguru

Joined Dec 20, 2007
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A piezo has a high output impedance that you are shorting with the extremely low 1k ohms input of your inverting opamp circuit. Nobody knows the output level of a shorted piezo but if you are hitting it then it might be high enough to cause the opamp to be clipping.
Then the output of your opamp (it has no part number) might be 25V peak-to-peak. A mic input might be damaged by a signal that is more than a few volts peak-to-peak.

You need a voltage-limiting circuit with a high input impedance, not an opamp with a high supply voltage and a low input impedance
 
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