Unless the penalty is the electric chair.

A penalty is, at best, applicable AFTER THE FACT!
For personal self defense, an electronic device capable of producing (inducing) fear, leading to runnig away, in the brain of the agressor. Rather more effective than a medium caliber firearm, and safer for others in the vecinity as well.
An electronic noise device able to produce a noise level of at least 130dB as a more possible alternative. Or maybe 145dB sound level. Louder would be better. The challenge is powering the thing, as well as size, weight, and price.

 

A penalty is, at best, applicable AFTER THE FACT!

Don't discount the deterrent effect.

 

Looked up the suggested phrase. It is about the rape of an 8 year old girl in Bangladesh.

So I assume SA means sexual assault.

I doubt that electronics is the solution.

She was beheaded afterwards and all these happened in the same building where she had been living since she was born. Her mother was crying and banging the door of the perpetrator's apartment, begging them to open while all these were happening. Under the Speedy Trial Tribunal, the main culprit and his wife were given death sentence. Verdict was given on 7th of this month. They are appealing against the verdict now. Nobody knows when they will be executed finally, if ever! Everyday we get to see news of crimes like this whenever we open the newspapers.

Coming back to my idea, I have explained that in post#14. I'd specifically like to know how to rule out the chances of false positive in the setup that I am thinking. Thank you.

 

A penalty is, at best, applicable AFTER THE FACT!
For personal self defense, an electronic device capable of producing (inducing) fear, leading to runnig away, in the brain of the agressor. Rather more effective than a medium caliber firearm, and safer for others in the vecinity as well.
An electronic noise device able to produce a noise level of at least 130dB as a more possible alternative. Or maybe 145dB sound level. Louder would be better. The challenge is powering the thing, as well as size, weight, and price.

Sir, I have explained my idea in post#14. I'd specifically like to know how to rule out the chances of false positive in the setup that I am thinking. Thank you.

 

How do you filter pure abject terror from genuine emotion? ... Say you were to monitor the heart rate and breathing. Both would rise significantly while experiencing a tragedy, as well as witnessing a goal by your favorite soccer team ... I just can't think of a practical and economical way of achieving what you want.

 

How do you filter pure abject terror from genuine emotion? ... Say you were to monitor the heart rate and breathing. Both would rise significantly while experiencing a tragedy, as well as witnessing a goal by your favorite soccer team ... I just can't think of a practical and economical way of achieving what you want.

Yeah. This is exactly my concern. This is why I was looking for experts who perhaps have experience in such project implementation.

 

She was beheaded afterwards and all these happened in the same building where she had been living since she was born. Her mother was crying and banging the door of the perpetrator's apartment, begging them to open while all these were happening.

So... just how would this device have changed anything? Obviously her mother knew where she was and that she was in serious danger. Obviously the attackers knew someone was banging on the door crying and screaming.

Why is there any reason to believe that they wouldn't have just ripped the device off of her and smashed it before proceeding exactly as they did?

Coming back to my idea, I have explained that in post#14. I'd specifically like to know how to rule out the chances of false positive in the setup that I am thinking. Thank you.

You can't.

 

Why is there any reason to believe that they wouldn't have just ripped the device off of her and smashed it before proceeding exactly as they did?

Yes, this possibility came across my mind too. This is why I posted the question here. To find more loopholes and possible solutions from the experts, thanks.

 

The only way to solve the problem you've described, that I can think of, is to have a surveillance state watching the population 100% of the time, aided by AI ... not a realistic scenario. The solution to your problem is going to have to wait at least 50 years more, if it ever gets solved at all.

 

The only way to solve the problem you've described, that I can think of, is to have a surveillance state watching the population 100% of the time, aided by AI ... not a realistic scenario. The solution to your problem is going to have to wait at least 50 years more, if it ever gets solved at all.

Even that would not have stopped it. The perpetrators clearly did fear being identified, since they proceeded while the mother was banging on their door.

 

Unfortunately sexual predation is most often perpetrated by family members. You're never going to find a solution to protect children from these predators. Other predators such as on line child predators MIGHT be stoppable IF age verification can be effectively done so that a child is never exposed to a person pretending to be a friend. But that doesn't help the child going to school from being abducted, or from the janitor from taking the child into the closet for extracurricular education. Or to stop the father, uncle or cousin from using play time to their advantage. I was a victim in the Boy Scouts of America. Had a troop leader teach me some things that was not in the scouting manual. We were in the woods. The MOST electronics we had were our flashlights. And a 10 year old is seldom equipped to handle such things. This is not a problem you're going to solve with any means. As for punitive measures, as has already been said - they are after-the-fact measures. The damage to the child is for life. Even if they're properly counseled the scar remains. Trust me!

 

Hi,
Most of the posted solutions so far could be compared to placing a sticking plaster on a broken arm.

The punishment for anyone found guilty of committing a sexual crime against any other non-consenting person should be punished by execution or emasculation.

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The punishment for anyone found guilty of committing a sexual crime against any other non-consenting person should be punished by execution or emasculation.

I would not wish that on my perpetrator. I have family members (one actually) who has committed SA against a minor family member. Punishment should fit the crime, not the emotion. And there are differing levels of SA. Some severe, some minor. If punishment were based on the emotion - they should be launched into space and the cabin door blown open. Quick, humane, but expensive.

Of course this is my point of view. Others may vary. Especially by those who have been victimized.

 

Unfortunately sexual predation is most often perpetrated by family members. You're never going to find a solution to protect children from these predators. Other predators such as on line child predators MIGHT be stoppable IF age verification can be effectively done so that a child is never exposed to a person pretending to be a friend. But that doesn't help the child going to school from being abducted, or from the janitor from taking the child into the closet for extracurricular education. Or to stop the father, uncle or cousin from using play time to their advantage. I was a victim in the Boy Scouts of America. Had a troop leader teach me some things that was not in the scouting manual. We were in the woods. The MOST electronics we had were our flashlights. And a 10 year old is seldom equipped to handle such things. This is not a problem you're going to solve with any means. As for punitive measures, as has already been said - they are after-the-fact measures. The damage to the child is for life. Even if they're properly counseled the scar remains. Trust me!

I hear you, sir. I am missing Facebook's sad react here. I wish you all the best in life.

 

The TS may have been a victim - AND I'M NOT ASKING! Or the TS could be family to a victim. But there ARE more violent acts that can be perpetrated against a child or a woman. The TS simply wants a way to protect either themselves or their loved ones from such harm. I truly wish there was an easy answer. I surely can't think of one.

 

Hi,
Most of the posted solutions so far could be compared to placing a sticking plaster on a broken arm.

The punishment for anyone found guilty of committing a sexual crime against any other non-consenting person should be punished by execution or emasculation.

E

I agree that punishment has no alternative. As a citizen, I always demand capital punishment for this heinous crime. As a parent, I write on newspaper and social media to make guardians more aware. But sometimes I think maybe as an engineer, I could do something too which I am missing....

 

I hear you, sir. I am missing Facebook's sad react here. I wish you all the best in life.

Thank you. But this is not about me.

I've been doing "End Of Life" papers. No, I'm not dying, just planning for when it happens. The older I get the more death sticks in my mind. Just yesterday I began production on a video to be shown at my funeral. There are things I want to say to my loved ones, which I have said many times before, but there's some things I would wish I could say after I passed. That's where the video comes in. It's a personal choice.

But staying on topic - SA is not something you can easily fix. A person is molested as a child. They go on to become a molester. The cycle repeats. It has been going on for who knows how long. Probably back before the dawn of humankind.

 

I write on newspaper and social media to make guardians more aware. But sometimes I think maybe as an engineer, I could do something too which I am missing....

Sometimes it's the guardians who become perp's. What you're missing, what we all are missing is a permanent solution to the problem. I honestly don't think there is one. If someone comes up with a solution I would applaud them.

If you made a sensor net that a child could wear - the perp could simply pull it off of them and they would have no protection - assuming you could come up with a means of protection, let alone detection.

I truly wish no one would ever have to suffer that fate. But it's not a clear cut - one size fits all - punishment.

https://www.narsol.org/

 

The punishment for anyone found guilty of committing a sexual crime against any other non-consenting person should be punished by execution or emasculation.

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Disagree. Assuming that the bible actually is a valid guide for societal morality, most people get this part wrong. "An eye for an eye" is not permission. It does not mean that if you break my arm, the bible says I'm allowed to break your arm. It is restriction. It means that if you burn down my house, I'm not allowed to kill you. Rape is not murder so based on that often-repeated phrase, murder is not a biblically-acceptable response.

Separate from that, rape is not about sex, it is about power. While emasculation can change the mechanics, it does nothing to address the impulse. I know someone who was raped with the handle of a screwdriver. Note that I'm not arguing against emasculation, because it often works. I'm saying that you have to adjust your expectations to align with its limitations - it is not the *guaranteed* fix that most people think it is.

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SA ranges from being seen urinating against a tree to - outright rape and murder. The guy seen standing at a tree gets convicted and goes on the SA Registry for exposing himself. Should he be executed? The range of offenses is wide. No single sentence is appropriate for all cases. The point of this thread is to find a way to prevent SA from occurring. I share the TS sentiments to wish to be able to come up with a solution to the problem. Trouble is no matter how great a mouse trap you build there's always going to be a rat that can circumvent it.