Designing a balanced mic preamp for a David Clark P/N 12512G-11 headset

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regnaDkciN

Joined Aug 14, 2024
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My project is creating a preamplifier connecting an avionics headset (David Clark P/N 12512G-11) microphone to my audio mixing board.

The headset microphone is described as a "noise suppressing, 5 ohm dynamic moving coil part # DC-87".

The link to the headset is:
https://www.davidclarkcompany.com/product/?ItemNumber=12512G-11.

I have worked up preamplifiers for pro-level gear (600 ohm, balanced XLR) and "home" unbalanced gear yet this is presenting a challenge.

From what I have observed, this headset is used in a very noisy environment (both electrically and mechanically) and plugged into a long extension cable, leading me to focus on a balanced input preamp design.

I am looking at the THAT1512 chip. Should I be considering an input impedance-matching transformer?

Thank You
 

Ian0

Joined Aug 7, 2020
13,097
Members,

My project is creating a preamplifier connecting an avionics headset (David Clark P/N 12512G-11) microphone to my audio mixing board.

The headset microphone is described as a "noise suppressing, 5 ohm dynamic moving coil part # DC-87".

The link to the headset is:
https://www.davidclarkcompany.com/product/?ItemNumber=12512G-11.

I have worked up preamplifiers for pro-level gear (600 ohm, balanced XLR) and "home" unbalanced gear yet this is presenting a challenge.

From what I have observed, this headset is used in a very noisy environment (both electrically and mechanically) and plugged into a long extension cable, leading me to focus on a balanced input preamp design.

I am looking at the THAT1512 chip. Should I be considering an input impedance-matching transformer?

Thank You
I think the transformer would be advisable. 100uV is a really tiny signal, and to amplify that without adding any noise isn't easy. Designed any good moving coil cartridge pre-amplifiers lately?
 

Ian0

Joined Aug 7, 2020
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Not really. Mostly test/repair and refurbish/replace.

Any favorite transformer manufacturers?

Thank you
Not really.
A ribbon microphone transformer would have about the right voltage specs, but you don't really need the extended bass response that "audiophile" mics would have.
 

MisterBill2

Joined Jan 23, 2018
27,164
Really, to couple from that 5 ohm dynamic microphone and avoid noise pickup, you can use a small output transformer like would be used for an older small pocket radio. The balanced pair from the DClark mic to the 4 ohm side of the transformer, the secondary to the differential inputs of a quiet op-amp.And tie the transformer frame to the system common. That should be fairly noise resistant. Use a feedback resistor on the op-amp for a gain about 100
 

Ian0

Joined Aug 7, 2020
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Really, to couple from that 5 ohm dynamic microphone and avoid noise pickup, you can use a small output transformer like would be used for an older small pocket radio. The balanced pair from the DClark mic to the 4 ohm side of the transformer, the secondary to the differential inputs of a quiet op-amp.And tie the transformer frame to the system common. That should be fairly noise resistant. Use a feedback resistor on the op-amp for a gain about 100
Like the Eagle LT700
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/263690340712
 

MisterBill2

Joined Jan 23, 2018
27,164
A caution about my suggestion in post #5 is that the transformer selected should be "small" because energy is required to produce the magnetization that makes a transformer function. So the more iron the more energy required.
 
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