current limiting batteries

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suyash

Joined Jan 11, 2015
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hey guys,

have a quick question here. there are many commercially available power banks with rated amperages as high as 20000 mah. what i wonder is that they usually have 2 ports one being 1 amp and the other being 2 amp.how is 20000mah limited to 1/2 amp.i know these things have multiple batteries in them but still each has a individual amperage of about 2000 mah or higher.

are such limiters available to be used with your lipo batteries that can be just attached to the batteries if so what are they marketed as ? and can i buy them online.
 

crutschow

Joined Mar 14, 2008
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mAh is not a current rating, it is the energy capacity rating of the battery (amperes times hours) and a battery is usually rated at a 10 or 20 hour discharge rate.
That rating is only loosely related to the maximum current the battery can deliver which also greatly depends upon the battery type and construction.
 
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recklessrog

Joined May 23, 2013
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Beware though, that the current limit advised on the outlet is stated at a maximum level that will not cause damage. Batteries are able to provide current at sometimes many times their mah (see the post above) rating for short periods if shorted out which can result in wiring/ contacts/ and the batteries over heating and catching fire! lIPO'S especially seem to have a propensity to catching fire!
Your post seems to imply that you think that that the current is "limited" so that no more than the 1 or 2 amps can be drawn. In most cases this is not so, although there may be a fuse included that will blow in case a short circuit is encountered.
There are many hundreds of devices that can regulate current, look on this site or google "current regulators, and voltage regulators"
 
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crutschow

Joined Mar 14, 2008
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Batteries are able to provide current at sometimes many times their mah rating for short periods if shorted out which can result in wiring/ contacts/ and the batteries over heating and catching fire! ....................
As I previously stated, maximum battery current is not directly related the the mAh rating, which is a energy rating for the battery.

"Many times their mah rating" has no meaning. It's like trying to determine the maximum RPM of an engine from its horsepower rating.
 
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recklessrog

Joined May 23, 2013
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As I previously stated, maximum battery current is not directly related the the mAh rating, which is a energy rating for the battery.

"Many times their mah rating" has no meaning. It's like trying to determine the maximum RPM of an engine from its horsepower rating.
Yes i could have phrased that differently, but I think the term mah does signify the potential capacity of the battery, I.e in simple practical terms, a 17ah lead acid gel battery in a car booster starter can withstand a very short period of high current discharge to start the vehicle, current, time. My intention was to make the thread starter aware of the possibility to draw excessive current from the battery which could result in damage, fire etc. I just didn't want him to assume that he could connect any load he liked and the current would not exceed the stated maximum permissable.
 
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crutschow

Joined Mar 14, 2008
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Yes i could have phrased that differently, but I think the term mah does signify the potential capacity of the battery, I.e in simple practical terms, a 17ah lead acid gel battery in a car booster starter can withstand a very short period of high current discharge to start the vehicle, current, time. My intention was to make the thread starter aware of the possibility to draw excessive current from the battery which could result in damage, fire etc. I just didn't want him to assume that he could connect any load he liked and the current would not exceed the stated maximum permissable.
Fair enough.
I just don't want to promote the faulty idea, which seems to be somewhat common, that the battery mAh rating somehow tells you what the maximum battery current is.
 
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recklessrog

Joined May 23, 2013
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Fair enough.
I just don't want to promote the faulty idea, which seems to be somewhat common, that the battery mAh rating somehow tells you what the maximum battery current is.
I absolutely agree, and that was not my intention :)
 

ian field

Joined Oct 27, 2012
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hey guys,

have a quick question here. there are many commercially available power banks with rated amperages as high as 20000 mah. what i wonder is that they usually have 2 ports one being 1 amp and the other being 2 amp.how is 20000mah limited to 1/2 amp.i know these things have multiple batteries in them but still each has a individual amperage of about 2000 mah or higher.

are such limiters available to be used with your lipo batteries that can be just attached to the batteries if so what are they marketed as ? and can i buy them online.
Traditionally; fuses were used - but you have to replace those when they blow.

The latest thing is the Polyfuse self resetting fuse, its a PTC thermistor with a sharp knee curve. Up to a certain current they have low resistance, but if you increase the current beyond a certain point they start self heating and the resistance rises sharply.
 
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