You can judge for yourself using the 'paper of record'.

See, there you go again, using a fake news source. I've decided to join them instead of trying to keep fighting them and getting my posts deleted.

 

If you name certain retired president, that will get your posts deleted. He who shall not be named is the back of many a joke on the Late Show with Steven Colbert. He doesn't name him either he has a list of names sent by his followers that he uses instead.

 

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-cuba-4d54c5429b5238d2d1c086290881d4fd

Even in the depths of the pandemic -- even when the world locked down, leaving billions isolated and desolated -- there were those who danced.

 

Even in the depths of the pandemic -- even when the world locked down, leaving billions isolated and desolated -- there were those who danced.

yes, some of us are just trying to live our lives... work, dance, travel, dine out,... covid or no covid - one still has needs.

 

i see.... censorship and muzzling continues, kick that 1A to the curb.
mere mention of name of a president will get the post deleted. all hail tyranny and oppression.

Stop it. There is no 1A censorship and muzzling. They have every right to set standards and we have a choice to post elsewhere.

 

Stop it. There is no 1A censorship and muzzling. They have every right to set standards and we have a choice to post elsewhere.

Agreed ... they're simply enforcing the TOS of this place.

 

https://www.thelocal.de/20211007/berlin-makes-exceptions-to-vaccinated-only-rule/

From Sunday, October 10th, people who are unable to get vaccinated for medical reasons will be allowed into so-called ‘2G’ venues, which are usually only open to those who are vaccinated (geimpft) or recovered (genesen).

Like almost all other German states, Berlin allows the owners of bars, restaurants, cinemas and various other indoor venues to operate a strict ‘2G’ entry policy that excludes people who don’t have any immunity from Covid.
...
In addition to carve-outs for groups of unvaccinated people, Berlin also voted on Tuesday to expand the range of places that are allowed to opt for 2G.

From Sunday, hotels, holiday rentals, museums, galleries, libraries, archives and memorials will join bars, restaurants and cinemas in being able to restrict entry to the vaccinated and recovered.

The Germans take recovery as 'proof' of immunity.

 

i see.... censorship and muzzling continues, kick that 1A to the curb.
mere mention of name of a president will get the post deleted. all hail tyranny and oppression.

criticizing moderation will also get you banned. We are not a government So what we do as far as censoring go is not oppression. Welcome to the real world. We are not a large corporation either although I suppose we are a corporation.

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-...t-after-covid-19-vaccine-reaction-2021-08-06/

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-...t-after-covid-19-vaccine-reaction-2021-08-06/

The poor nurse.

She was later diagnosed with acute demyelinating encephalomyelitis, a rare autoimmune disease.

 

The poor nurse.

She was later diagnosed with acute demyelinating encephalomyelitis, a rare autoimmune disease.

ADEM vs MS is Ongoing progressive

About 80 percent of children with ADEM will have a single episode of ADEM. Most make a complete recovery within months following the illness. In a small number of cases, a second attack of ADEM occurs within the first few months

Can be confused with MS.

kv

 

criticizing moderation will also get you banned. We are not a government So what we do as far as censoring go is not oppression. Welcome to the real world. We are not a large corporation either although I suppose we are a corporation.

As a reminder, anyone can bring any moderation issues to the staff via PM, and only via PM. We do our best to hear all concerns and arrive at a suitable resolution. Frequently we can, sometimes we can't but the choice to participate on the forums is always a choice, not a mandate.

Thanks to all for your understanding.

 

There are many unresolved questions about the vaccine and its potential harm especially if it is to be used repeatedly.

Something not discussed about PEGs - https://www.biochempeg.com/article/119.html

It has been shown reliably that this vaccine is NOT contained at the injection site and this likely explains the range of side effects experienced.

My main interest is in its potential to cause autoimmune disorders, these are especially prevalent in women and its potential effect on the nervious system of it is indeed able to cross the blood brain barrier (our brain's ultimate defence).

 

As a reminder, anyone can bring any moderation issues to the staff via PM, and only via PM. We do our best to hear all concerns and arrive at a suitable resolution. Frequently we can, sometimes we can't but the choice to participate on the forums is always a choice, not a mandate.

Thanks to all for your understanding.

What he said.

 

My main interest is in its potential to cause autoimmune disorders, these are especially prevalent in women and its potential effect on the nervious system of it is indeed able to cross the blood brain barrier (our brain's ultimate defence).

Is there a particular study that you are referring to?

 

Is there a particular study that you are referring to?

I dont know of any studies looking at these effects specifically. As already mentioned, all vaccine trials are still set to run until 2023 but with most trials already unblinded no valid data will be produced.

This article riterates concerns about autoimmune issues. But same as myself, it is just ppinting out an issue that is already known, but being ignored.

Relationship between autoimmune disorders and vaccination also seems to be established in research but not acknowledged by public health.

 

If you name certain retired president, that will get your posts deleted

That's my whole problem, I don't mention just allude. Now just mentioning a year is enough. This isn't criticizing just pointing something out.

 

I dont know of any studies looking at these effects specifically. As already mentioned, all vaccine trials are still set to run until 2023 but with most trials already unblinded no valid data will be produced.

This article riterates concerns about autoimmune issues. But same as myself, it is just ppinting out an issue that is already known, but being ignored.

Relationship between autoimmune disorders and vaccination also seems to be established in research but not acknowledged by public health.

Thanks for the link.

The way I read that is that woman in there 30s who are predisposed to autoimmune disorders might get autoimmune disorders after receiving the covid-19 mRNA vaccine as an environmental factor.

It is strung together with the words "may" and "might", so it is quite speculative.

To be fair, there is not a lot of data in this area, so no conclusions of whether this is happening can be made. We have to be careful that we are not making an argument from ignorance though - i.e. We can't prove that it is not X, so it is definately X.

On the flip side researchers have indicated that patients with autoimmune and inflammatory conditions vs the general population may be at *increased* risk for COVID-19-associated hospitalizations and worse disease outcomes, suggesting that the benefits of vaccination outweigh the risks (https://www.rheumatology.org/About-Us/Newsroom/Press-Releases/ID/1138), so maybe they are better off receiving the vaccines

 

Thanks for the link.

The way I read that is that woman in there 30s who are predisposed to autoimmune disorders might get autoimmune disorders after receiving the covid-19 mRNA vaccine as an environmental factor.

It is strung together with the words "may" and "might", so it is quite speculative.

To be fair, there is not a lot of data in this area, so no conclusions of whether this is happening can be made. We have to be careful that we are not making an argument from ignorance though - i.e. We can't prove that it is not X, so it is definately X.

On the flip side researchers have indicated that patients with autoimmune and inflammatory conditions vs the general population may be at *increased* risk for COVID-19-associated hospitalizations and worse disease outcomes, suggesting that the benefits of vaccination outweigh the risks (https://www.rheumatology.org/About-Us/Newsroom/Press-Releases/ID/1138), so maybe they are better off receiving the vaccines

As someone who recovered from Guillain-Barre’, an autoimmune disorder (which presumably resulted after catching the flu), all of my doctors have recommended avoiding any viral vaccines. Until COVID-19…

We performed a risk-reward analysis and the risk of a GB recurrence was much less than experiencing a Covid case.The worst case was paralysis versus death.

I decided to get the Covid vaccination as soon as possible. And have never regretted my decision.

 

So...it seems that regions with high vaccination rates also happen to be reporting some of the highest numbers of new Covid cases.

Notably, Israel with over 60% of their population fully
vaccinated had the highest COVID-19 cases per 1 million
people in the last 7 days. The lack of a meaningful asso-
ciation between percentage population fully vaccinated and
new COVID-19 cases is further exemplified, for instance,
by comparison of Iceland and Portugal. Both countries have
over 75% of their population fully vaccinated and have more
COVID-19 cases per 1 million people than countries such
as Vietnam and South Africa

And indeed areas where the rate of vaccination approaches 100% the numbers are higher than almost anywhere else.

Across the US counties too, the median new COVID-19
cases per 100,000 people in the last 7 days is largely similar
across the categories of percent population fully vaccinated
(Fig. 2). Notably there is also substantial county variation in
new COVID-19 cases within categories of percentage popu-
lation fully vaccinated. There also appears to be no signifi-
cant signaling of COVID-19 cases decreasing with higher
percentages of population fully vaccinated (Fig. 3).
Of the top 5 counties that have the highest percentage
of population fully vaccinated (99.9–84.3%), the US Cent-
ers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) identifies 4
of them as “High” Transmission counties.

It's rather perplexing to say the least and most definitely deserves a much deeper look...

The sole reliance on vaccination as a primary strategy to
mitigate COVID-19 and its adverse consequences needs
to be re-examined, especially considering the Delta
(B.1.617.2) variant and the likelihood of future variants.
vaccination rates. Such course correction, especially with
regards to the policy narrative, becomes paramount with
emerging scientific evidence on real world effectiveness
of the vaccines.