About the mask: Last year, during April-May we were locked down and I only went out of the house once a week for a quick grocery shopping trip. The stores were nearly deserted and I stayed away from people. I was living alone at the time so those brief shopping trips were the only time I had any interaction with people. About 3 or 4 weeks into the lockdown I started to run a high fever and have other symptoms similar to what Covid-19 patients are said to exhibit. It was clearly some sort of flu, but if the mask was protecting me, why did I get sick? The answer is that the masks being used does not much good at stopping a virus-size particle.

Thinking back to early last year when we were trying to make sense of what was being reported, we realized that the numbers being reported were wrong, actually faked for profit in many cases. I find a lot of strangeness in the numbers I read these days too. Some of it might be governments trying to get their people to take notice and submit to their requests and it seems very rare for the main stream media to contradict the governments or the Pharmaceutical companies which after a fashion "own" them.

All we can really believe is what we witness and figure out for ourselves.

 

The way I understand it, masks are more about protecting the wearer from spreading the virus around, not from acquiring the virus itself. The idea is to minimize the spraying of one's droplets during exhaling.
Also, I can tell you firsthand that not other single illness has taken the lives in such a short time of so many people that I've directly known before in my life.

 

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02090-9

Last August, biologist Catherine Green was camping with her daughter in Wales when a chance conversation at the pizza van turned to a familiar topic: COVID-19. “We don’t know what they put in these vaccines,” a fellow camper told her. “I don’t trust them. They don’t tell us the truth.”

Green was uniquely placed to know. She runs a clinical biomanufacturing facility at the University of Oxford, UK, and is part of a team that had developed a COVID-19 vaccine that was in clinical trials at the time. Pharmaceutical company AstraZeneca of Cambridge, UK, aims to produce three billion doses of this vaccine for distribution around the world by the end of 2021, significantly protecting people from severe disease and death. Yet, nearly a year after Green’s encounter, conspiracy theories continue to stymie take-up of COVID-19 vaccines, risking lives both in regions where doses are abundant, and in those where there are precious few. In April, the non-profit Kaiser Family Foundation, based in San Francisco, California, found that 54% of US adults either believe common misinformation about COVID-19 vaccines or think that it might be true (see go.nature.com/3fyfaoi).

Although the chronology of events and science sometimes get jumbled — readers are given a detailed explanation of the chewy “replication-deficient recombinant simian adenoviral-vectored vaccine” well before they are introduced to the basics of how vaccines work — Green and Gilbert lay everything out clearly, from molecular biology to clinical-trial design. There is even a handy appendix listing the ingredients of the vaccine and what each does.

It would be wonderful if that were enough to quell the sort of concerns Green heard at the campsite. Sadly, it is hard to imagine that even her down-to-earth charm can compete with the flood of anti-vaccine propaganda that fills social-media feeds. Even so, it is worth a try.

 

England reopened amid a Delta surge, then cases fell.​

This third wave for the U.K. has been nothing like its first two, which caused nearly 130,000 deaths and briefly the world's highest daily deaths per capita. Whereas January's peak saw 80,000 daily cases and 1,300 daily deaths, July's peak of 60,000 daily cases brought no more than 78 deaths in one day.

Experts say this is incontrovertible proof of the vaccines' power.

 

I have to wonder how much of this is true:
https://rumble.com/vkif2z-reiner-fu...r-freedom-london-240721-oracle-films-cov.html

It gets interesting just after 6:00 in.

 

Found at compoundchem:

https://www.compoundchem.com/category/chemistry-in-the-news/coronavirus/
https://www.compoundchem.com/coronavirus/

 

Found at compoundchem:
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https://www.compoundchem.com/coronavirus/

The new Coronavirus variants in 2021 are increasingly airborne as they evolve to defeat masking and cleaning countermeasures.

https://www.pnas.org/content/118/17/e2018995118

Airborne transmission arises through the inhalation of aerosol droplets exhaled by an infected person and is now thought to be the primary transmission route of COVID-19. By assuming that the respiratory droplets are mixed uniformly through an indoor space, we derive a simple safety guideline for mitigating airborne transmission that would impose an upper bound on the product of the number of occupants and their time spent in a room. Our theoretical model quantifies the extent to which transmission risk is reduced in large rooms with high air exchange rates, increased for more vigorous respiratory activities, and dramatically reduced by the use of face masks. Consideration of a number of outbreaks yields self-consistent estimates for the infectiousness of the new coronavirus.

There is now overwhelming evidence that indoor airborne transmission associated with relatively small, micron-scale aerosol droplets plays a dominant role in the spread of COVID-19 (4, 5, 7, 17⇓–19, 22), especially for so-called “superspreading events” (25⇓⇓–28), which invariably occur indoors (29). For example, at the 2.5-h-long Skagit Valley Chorale choir practice that took place in Washington State on March 10, some 53 of 61 attendees were infected, presumably not all of them within 6 ft of the initially infected individual (25). Similarly, when 23 of 68 passengers were infected on a 2-h bus journey in Ningbo, China, their seated locations were uncorrelated with distance to the index case (28). Airborne transmission was also implicated in the COVID-19 outbreak between residents of a Korean high-rise building whose apartments were linked via air ducts (30). Studies have also confirmed the presence of infectious SARS-CoV-2 virions in respiratory aerosols (31) suspended in air samples collected at distances as large as 16 ft from infected patients in a hospital room (3). Further evidence for the dominance of indoor airborne transmission has come from an analysis of 7,324 early cases outside the Hubei Province, in 320 cities across mainland China (32). The authors found that all clusters of three or more cases occurred indoors, 80% arising inside apartment homes and 34% potentially involving public transportation; only a single transmission was recorded outdoors. Finally, the fact that face mask directives have been more effective than either lockdowns or social distancing in controlling the spread of COVID-19 (22, 33) is consistent with indoor airborne transmission as the primary driver of the global pandemic.

 

This sentence really should lay to rest all of the refusal to wear a mask- " Finally, the fact that face mask directives have been more effective than either lockdowns or social distancing in controlling the spread of COVID-19 (22, 33) is consistent with indoor airborne transmission as the primary driver of the global pandemic." It's the last sentence in the above post by nsa.

 

I’m wondering if enlisted he will be forced to take the Vax? Of course along with all the other shots, no one really knows whats in them lol

kv

In the US, I believe he would be required to be vaccinated. The military can be considered Federal employees. All Federal employees are required to be vaccinated.

 

Can I ask for some clarification!

In a recent news report about 40% of those hospitalized with the dreaded virus had already been vaccinated.

On the other hand, over 99% of new cases are from unvaccinated people. These two stats are inconsistent.

Can you provide a reference for your 40% reference?

 

In Canada today my area has 70% of people 12 years old and up who are fully vaccinated. This is the first day in the pandemic that there is nobody in the main hospital ICU. The new case counts are very low.
Everybody must show proof of double vaccinations to do almost anything. The vaccinations are working well.

A couple of areas in Canada have many people without vaccinations or masks like in a few other countries and their hospitals are still overloaded with serious Covid cases and deaths.

 

Can I ask for some clarification!

On the other hand, over 99% of new cases are from unvaccinated people. These two stats are inconsistent.

Can you provide a reference for your 40% reference?

https://garycornell.com/2021/07/28/...s-are-among-the-vaccinated-is-a-bs-statement/

Suppose you see a headline that says something like: “50% of our 100,000 new Covid cases were among the vaccinated”? Should you be concerned that the vaccine isn’t working anymore? The answer is: absolutely not – well, not without a lot more information. This statement is an example of using numbers to confuse rather than illuminate. And the best way to understand that this is almost certainly a totally meaningless statistic, perhaps even rising to the level of complete BS, is to use a technique I’ve explained before – think about what a statement would mean at extremes.

 

As people who are helping to create new COVID 19 mutations maybe they should be demonized. COVID-19 does not need the help.

I'm sorry Wendy, but several variants have been proven to live happily in vaccinated people, well enough to make them sick. unvaccinated people are not the sole cause of COVID 19 mutations. Also please keep in mind that these mutations we know of existed before vaccines were available to most Americans. Also the vast majority of the world remains, unvaccinated, and will likely forever due to a number of financial and logistical reasons.
This suggestion is discriminatory for a number of reasons; chiefly being that any new variant that comes around, that you may come in contact with, will most likely have been formed in some other country (with massively larger poor population) and brought to you by a traveler.

Frankly where I live, vaccinated people being morons and ignoring public health measures and spreading delta variant around is a much higher risk than a handful of careful people who have chosen not to have an experimental vaccine.

I called my doctor, my doctor said, well, we think its safe, but we don't have enough data yet to know much about it. I'm like, oooooook. I'll wait a bit thanks. I am not a COVID 19 variant machine. suggesting I am is insanity.
Stay safe.

 

It is obvious all over the world that people with 2 vaccine doses stay healthy while unvaccinated people clog the hospitals and die.

 

I called my doctor, my doctor said, well, we think its safe, but we don't have enough data yet to know much about it.

Your doctor wouldn't be named Joseph Mercola by any chance?

 

It is obvious all over the world that people with 2 vaccine doses stay healthy while unvaccinated people clog the hospitals and die.

Yes, and 'fear' is working on the unvaccinated.

https://dnyuz.com/2021/08/05/alarme...turn-to-vaccines-in-darkest-days-of-pandemic/

But when Madeline LeBlanc relented and got her first vaccine dose this week, she was motivated by something entirely different: fear.

After seeing news reports about the Delta variant raging across the state, Ms. LeBlanc, 24, had come to see that without a vaccine, she risked not just her own life but those of others around her. “I don’t want to be the one inhibiting someone else’s health,” said Ms. LeBlanc, who lives in Baton Rouge.

Demand for the shots has nearly quadrupled in recent weeks in Louisiana, a promising glimmer that the deadly reality of the virus might be breaking through a logjam of misunderstanding and misinformation.

The new push for vaccinations has been driven by an explosion in coronavirus cases. But it takes time for vaccines to bolster immune systems, and the state — which now leads the country in new cases — could still be weeks away from relief.

For many younger people, fear of the vaccines has been overtaken by fear of the virus itself, after hearing stories of people their age succumbing to Covid-19.

“It’s definitely scary that it could be you who ends up in the hospital,” a 22-year-old woman who gave only her first name, Brianna, said as she waited for her shot on Tuesday at a vaccination site run by the Louisiana National Guard in Baton Rouge.

Ashlynn Robert had avoided getting vaccinated because of a fear of needles, but her mother started pressing her as hospitalizations rose. “It wasn’t that bad,” Ms. Robert, 24, said after her shot. “I was being dramatic.”

 

Yes, and 'fear' is working

Why not? It's worked for years during elections, at least for one group. And no this isn't meant to be political, just truthful.

 

At long last, the anti-vaxxers will be hit where it hurts the most:

Anti-vax? Be prepared to pay more for insurance: Analysis​

 

Your doctor wouldn't be named Joseph Mercola by any chance?

No

 

At long last, the anti-vaxxers will be hit where it hurts the most:

Anti-vax? Be prepared to pay more for insurance: Analysis​

Interesting read. While my neighbor is a sweetheart she does have a problem with alcohol abuse. Following her last driving while intoxicated she pays a much higher rate for her automotive insurance than most of us do, she was also a threat to others around her. Insurance companies charge smokers a higher rate than non smokers and the list goes on. With that in mind I wonder how things play out if someone declines vaccination based on religious grounds? Not sure how that would play out in the US courts. What I am seeing is a heck of a division among people over this entire pandemic. The unvaccinated, much like a drunk driver pose a threat to those around them.

Ron