IMO there'd be an apocalyptic backbone behind all of the scientific,political,social ,etc events,
in such cases,I'd say:
the nature will manipulate you ,if you manipulate the nature as well... :-/

 

Yes and as usual it was a plot by the US who are once again at fault and trying to destroy Iran... Or is that too political???

If not then Rush saying it,Covid19, is a democrat plot against trump surely is.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/feb/25/rush-limbaugh-coronavirus-trump

 

Don't know if it's been mentioned cause I haven't had time to read all the replies to this topic. Does anyone else find it odd that this happened in china to start with. Think about it for a second. We've been killing china's economy with sanctions (the US) so what would be the best way to hurt others economies than with a pandemic. My thoughts on this is they done it on purpose.
Brzrkr

 

We've been killing china's economy with sanctions (the US) so what would be the best way to hurt others economies than with a pandemic.

By being ground zero, hurting their economy, and killing themselves in the process?? Even a dictator couldn't be that stupid.

 

Don't know if it's been mentioned cause I haven't had time to read all the replies to this topic. Does anyone else find it odd that this happened in china to start with. Think about it for a second. We've been killing china's economy with sanctions (the US) so what would be the best way to hurt others economies than with a pandemic. My thoughts on this is they done it on purpose.
Brzrkr

I cannot believe it was done on purpose.

1) New influenza A serotypes ("flu") and some flu-like illnesses originate in China each year. That has been an epidemiological fact for decades. Some people have attributed that to migratory waterfowl. There is no mystery to that or conspiracy.

2) It could have been an accidental release from a laboratory, That has been denied. But China has been very secretive and has not allowed foreign investigators to review that laboratory. That behavior is not unusual for that regime, but given the potential for a pandemic, one might think that China would share more.

 

Don't know if it's been mentioned cause I haven't had time to read all the replies to this topic. Does anyone else find it odd that this happened in china to start with. Think about it for a second. We've been killing china's economy with sanctions (the US) so what would be the best way to hurt others economies than with a pandemic. My thoughts on this is they done it on purpose.
Brzrkr

That's one theory. However, many, many Chinese business are already hard hit by the trade war (not "sanctions". That's Iran.) and the virus shutdown is making it way worse. A huge number of Chinese businesses will fail in the next few months from bankruptcy due to loan defaults (no customers, no income, no loan payments). The popular example cited in news stories is a karaoke bar chain which has no customers and the owner gives it two months. The government will have to print money and require banks to extend loan relief. Personally, I think we are headed into a world wide recession.

 

Is it time to panic yet? If no, when?

The day before the food market shelves go empty.

 

Chinese business are already hard hit by the trade war (not "sanctions". That's Iran.)

Yes. And as a US based manufacturer, I know that the Chinese government was already charging a 20% tariff on all the parts that we export to them. Any "trade war" was already happening, and is not new. China has been hurting American businesses for decades.

 

Being denied and being true are two different things. Most murderers claim not guilty when asked what do they plea. China in the past has been known to not care what happens to it's own people. Tiananmen square and Hong Kong come to mind. Past behavior tends to predict future behavior. Riots/protests in main land China are put down with brute force.
China is not a democracy but a totalitarian government Which means you do as I say. Their government owns all the money, all the land and you have NO rights, no value. Any deaths would be considered collateral damage.
Brzrkr

 

Some people have attributed that to migratory waterfowl.

More likely due to their (compared to Western European norms) extreme overcrowding and comparatively lack of proper sanitation standards. Overcrowding and lack of sanitation is the top recipe for disease.

 

Most of the articles I've read associated it with the Huanan seafood market not waterfowl.
Brzrkr

 

Take your pick, it's a Hobson's choice of lies.

 

Their government owns all the money, all the land and you have NO rights, no value. Any deaths would be considered collateral damage.

The Chinese president is sweating not being able to provide the economic growth that's expected from him. It would have been far wiser to release the virus in the countries of your enemies. That is, if you believe the conspiracy theories.

 

Yeah earlier I posted sanctions, I actually meant tariffs.
Them releasing it isn't so far fetched in my mind. Why would they care if they take the whole worlds economy down. In their minds we're taking them down...….So no big deal if they lose a few thousand/million in the effort.
They're a country of about one and a half Billion. (If I'm not mistaken)
Brzrkr

 

The infection number in the U.S. is now 60 out of a population of over 300 million.

Doesn't seem like much of an emergency.

 

Back in China things are returning to normal.

 

US stock market is now in a "correction", -10%.

 

Treatment trials started in US

Meanwhile, a clinical trial is underway at the University of Nebraska Medical Center in Omaha, to evaluate how effective an antiviral drug would be on people diagnosed with coronavirus, the National Institutes of Health said.

There have been at least 82,056 confirmed cases worldwide and 2,800 deaths -- the vast majority in China.

The drug being tested in the trial, remdesivir, was previously tested in humans for Ebola and in animals for MERS and SARS.

There are also clinical trials of the drug going on in China, the NIH said, and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases developed the American study to match those studies.

The first participant in the Omaha trial is an American who was evacuated from the Diamond Princess cruise ship.

Participants will receive 200 milligrams of remdesivir intravenously when they're enrolled and another 100 while they're hospitalized for up to 10 days in total. A placebo group will receive a solution that resembles remdesivir but contains only inactive ingredients, the NIH said.

 

The mortality rate in Iran is 20% because it seems they weren't smart enough to adjust both infection and death numbers to reflect their actual percentage.

The US trials aren't expected to give us a viable vaccine for about a year and a half. US officials say this will only help if this virus hits us again next year. Someone was very unhappy to hear about that.

Read that someone who worked on a SARS vaccine thinks it could be modified to be effective against COVID-19 (it was too late to help with SARS and has been stored since 2016). Unfortunately, no drug manufacturers are interested in investing any money unless the virus becomes seasonal. Don't have a URL, but read it on Smartnews (even the FOX articles they choose to reference there seem believable).

 

US stock market is now in a "correction", -10%.

Buy the fear, sell the greed.